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So, if Turkey is doing hot pursuit into Iraq, why is it we're not going after the safe houses in Syria?

Posted by Rand Simberg at June 06, 2007 09:45 AM
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Because Turkey knows it won't start a war with Iraq by doing so, and because the professional whining class of nations at the UN and in the EU doesn't care if Turkey does that.

The former is at best uncertain re. US "hot pursuit" into Syria, and the latter (while also less important than starting a war) is certain to cause an endless flood of carping about "sovereignty".

(It's gotten to the point where I want to throw something anytime someone mentions the word.

Oddly, those so doing are always* Leftists, and nigh always for violating sovereignty in other cases (cf. Darfur), just not when worshiping a leftover from the Treaty of Westphalia can be used against the President or against the US.

*I'm sure hard-isolationist Rightists ala Buchanan use the term as well, but I never get exposed to that, so the mentions that make me want to throw things are never from them.)

Posted by Sigivald at June 6, 2007 10:09 AM

Also, Israeli leaders prefer the corrupt Assad-the-Lesser (who loves his money more than jihad) to a less corrupt but religiously pure follow on government that may well emerge

Fatah was deeply corrupt and thus subject to manipulation by Israeli bribes. Hamas is "cleaner" in terms of graft and petty corruption but they are more pure in terms of a theological desire to eradicate Israel.

Hippocrates taught "First do no harm" and removing corrupt secular despots can make things worse, somewhat like giving Prozac to a depressed psychopath too stricken by depression to act out his fantasies for homicide.

Posted by Bill White at June 6, 2007 11:03 AM

To add to my answer, the Pajamas Media link suggests there are many denials that Turkey has actually entered Kurdish territory in Iraq.

Perhaps we should do "hot pursuit" into Syria but then get everyone to deny it ever happened.

Maybe we already are.

This would allow hot pursuit without causing anyone to lose face.

Posted by Bill White at June 6, 2007 11:44 AM

I think we'd do better to hot pursuit ourselves into Syria, capture boy Assad, cut off his head and leave it on the Syrian ambassador's desk in the UN General Assembly. I think that would set the appropriate diplomatic tone for our future dealings with Iran and our many other dear friends in the Middle East.

Posted by Jonathan at June 6, 2007 07:20 PM

Okay, Jonathon -

But with what army?

Me? I'd like a pony and $100 per pound lift to LEO but I shall not hold my breath.

Posted by Bill White at June 7, 2007 09:14 AM

The Neo-cons want us the invade Iran, Syria and
also Saudi Arabia.

But none of their kids are in the army now or will be
for the wars they dream of

Posted by anonymous at June 7, 2007 09:33 AM

And the morons see "Neo-cons" under their beds.

Posted by Rand Simberg at June 7, 2007 09:36 AM

I seem to recall, during a little thing called Vietnam,
the US tried hot pursuit, we were chasing VC and NVA into Laos,
cambodia, even chunks of thailand and Burma.

Fat lot of good that did.

i'd ask simberg if he ever had a draft number but, he get's
all mad when you ask him what he did in that war.

Posted by anonymous at June 7, 2007 01:11 PM

he get's all mad when you ask him what he did in that war.

That's nothing. If you want to see madness: What's your name?

Posted by Leland at June 7, 2007 02:18 PM

"Fat lot of good that did."

You ARE kidding, right?

The 1970 Cambodian incursion destroyed the NVA logistics base -- the one that made it MUCH easier for NVA soldiers in VC garb to infiltrate the Mekong Delta.

BTW, Anonymous, what did YOU do in "that war"? Can you support your claim in a manner that the readers of this blog can verify?

Just to be fair, during the Vietnam conflict, I served.

I served poop into diapers, food and drink onto floors, and finished up serving a small stone into the back of a classmates head. No permanent damage to the classmate, or to my hindquarters after the principal got done.

Regards,

Posted by MG at June 7, 2007 04:43 PM

MG

So what was Rand doing during Vietnam?

Posted by anonymous at June 7, 2007 06:44 PM

Mr. Anonymous,

Non sequitur. I showed you mine, now you show me yours. You want to know what Mr. Simberg was doing, you ask him.

OTOH, you could always suggest improvements to my assessment of the consequences of the 1970 Cambodia incursion, and its effects on combat operations in the Mekong river valley and S. Vietnam border areas w/ Cambodia.

or not.

Posted by MG at June 7, 2007 07:39 PM

Mr. Anonymous,

Non sequitur. I showed you mine, now you show me yours. You want to know what Mr. Simberg was doing, you ask him.

OTOH, you could always suggest improvements to my assessment of the consequences of the 1970 Cambodia incursion, and its effects on combat operations in the Mekong river valley and S. Vietnam border areas w/ Cambodia.

or not.

Posted by MG at June 7, 2007 07:39 PM


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