Is a space elevator a sign of the end times? Will it bring forth the anti-Christ?

I report, you decide.

[Via that well-known persecutor, Brian Dunbar]

Brian spanked him good and used the bible to do it.

Once he knew he was owned, he immeadiately played the 'victim' card.

Brian was right, he is cheapening the word persecution.

The call to take up the holy spirit is not a call to divorce ones self from all common sense.

As to his admoniition that God did not give us dominion over space? Did not this same god command us to spread out and multiply?

Surely he would not have left it so open-ended if he had intended us to stop when we reached the edge of our finite world.

Also, the Gospel of Mark when discussing end times mentions believers being called back from 'the heavens'.

"Matthew 24:31
And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."

This is a term referring to the space above, not "Heaven" and in God's dwelling place.

So one can argue that until we have offworld colonies, the rapture will not occur. Perhaps the persecuted individual should consider that.

I'm not sure if a space elevator is Brian Dunbar. The better question would be if Brian Dunbar is a space elevator.

Another broken link :(

Jeremy is going to H-E-double-toothpicks. Nowhere in the Bible does The Most High give us permission to post messages on the Internet.

Are we sure this Jeremy guy isn't a joke? I looked around and found his entry on this:

Since the government is Freemason driven, and freemasonry is Lucifer’s religion, then it makes sense to assume that the Satanic Political Agenda is on course:

*Termination of the myth of equality for all.
*Tax all churches
*Remove any religious beliefs which have been incorporated in legislation
*Development and production of artificial human companions (robots? -djs)
*The freedom for all to livewithin a total environment of their choice

OK, now that we laid the foundation of satanism in the government and that freemasonry is the religion of Satan and is what rules our government, lets see why James Cameron would be chosen for this documentary release.

James Cameron was inducted as a 33rd degree freemason, which goes to show his connection with the Illuminists and the Illuminati. There is even speculation that the RENAMED project called MK-ULTRA was renamed to MKSEARCH when George Bush entered office and then the mind control technology was introduced in James Cameron’s Films because he is good friends with George Bush.

That can't possibly be serious. Can it?

That can't possibly be serious. Can it?

Well, I don't know if it is or not, but it certainly can be. There are some pretty whacked people out there.

Are we sure this Jeremy guy isn't a joke?

I am reasonably certain he is sincere.

Brian,

How tall a tower can one build of aluminum foil before it collapses under its own weight?

This por sap needs one to shield him from the mind control rays.

This por sap needs one to shield him from the mind control rays.

I encountered a guy who was convinced that the government was beaming rays into his head. He wandered onto my post one night at the Navy Yard, telling us we had to make it stop.

My partner and I were disinclined to use force to make the unfortunate soul go away - and he wasn't inclined to go until he was satisfied. We politely and firmly told him the rays were NOT coming from the US Navy but the Army, and that he had to seek solace from at Fort McNair, just down the road.

I'm not sure if he made it but the last time we saw him he was heading in right direction.

This guy isn't like that. He's functional, holds a job, has a wife, he's contributing. His belief system is just a little outside the mainstream, s'all.

Are we sure this Jeremy guy isn't a joke?

I'm pretty sure he's sincere and a joke.

One of the things that bothers me here is that there also appears to be little thought going on. They stumble upon a few biblical passages and boom, decision made. If one looks at actual moral decisions made by religions, these take great lengths of time rather than an apparent five minutes of consideration.

And they know the outside world isn't just going to roll over and accept a justification based solely on biblical interpretation. If God did not want a space elevator, then he'd arm them with a better argument than that.

This fits into their persecution complex. When something goes wrong, they can claim that they "warned" people that space elevators were bad. But based on vague personal impressions and readings from a text millenia old? That's not a warning at all.

"Then again in Obadiah Chapter 1 verse 4 says, “Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.”"

I remember back in 79 some one sending in that passage of scripture to Time magazine regarding the fall of Skylab.

Everytime they do this, they are doing the faith a disservice. End timers are a bane to Christianity because they try and do the very thing the scripture explicitly tells them not to do.

Wonder if they ever heard of what happened to chicken little's credibility?

The damage the credibility of the cause by being repeatedly wrong and doing so in God's name.

This nonsense has really made me mad. Religion, any religion, has for too long been an excuse for having a small mind.

God has left us work to do:

The way I see it: Either there are other intelligences out there, or there are not. (I mean mortal beings, or ones that used to be mortal, not the supernatural).

If there are, given the incredibly short time that human civilisation has existed, then they will be so far ahead of us that they would be utterly incomprehensible. (In twenty thousand years we have come from the caves to the threshold of space; where will we be after a million? Or a billion?) And they likely won't care what we do, and if they do care and don't like it then we would have a chance of resisting them roughly equivalent to that of a snowflake in a blast furnace.

If there are not? Well, then this tribe of jumped-up monkeys has the right, and I would say the duty, to expand - to bring life to the rest of the universe. YES, US.

The alternative is to keep on as we are, and eventually to run out of critical resources, and after that to go back to the caves and maybe devolve to non-sapience; and there will be none after us, for we will have used up resources that will take a billion years to replace - and the biosphere hasn't got that long, as the Sun gets relentlessly hotter as it ages.

Wells said it much better than I. "It is the Universe or nothing; which will it be?"

We have maybe thirty years to decide. My vote is for the Universe.

In short, our task is either to join the community of intelligences, of which we will be a very junior member; or the largest task conceivable, and one which will last as long as our species does, and perhaps longer; to bring life and mind to a lifeless universe; to bring a countless horde of worshippers to His side.

Worth our species’ talents, I think.

Open comment, to the writer of the blog entry connected to:

You are speaking in your writings of the will of He whose writ runs from superstrings to superclusters of galaxies, from the core of the Sun to the endless gulfs of intergalactic space, from the fires of the Beginning to the freezing black emptiness of the end of Time.

You presume to know His will. You are guilty of at least one mortal sin, and that in full measure:

The sin of Pride.

(Oh, to be able to put this better!)

It's worth noting that similar religous rants
about "human arrogance", "resisting god's will",
and so forth were raised against the Mt. Palomar
telescope project...

-dw

Mat 7:1-6 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me cast out the mote out of thine eye; and lo, the beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the swine, lest haply they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you.
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Jesus words stand true as always ...

Yes they are Jeremy.

It is a shame you seem incapible of applying them to your self.

And I might add that you need a bit more light and a little less salt in your diet.

You know, Mike, criticize all you want. Truth is, you are not in a position to judge me as I am not you. If you have no sin, cast the stone at me. Otherwise, lets all look at ourselves before trying to tell someone else what they need in their lives. Jesus is the light in my life. He has directed me through the scriptures and does every day.

Your words here on this post do me no harm, because I receive this kinds of words everyday from others. Jesus said this kinds of things would happen to those that follow Him and His commandments.

The Pharisees did NOT believe Jesus or the apostles and disciples when they came preaching TRUTH because it was different than what their LEGALISTIC law had become.

The same is true today in our society. All the denominations are prejudices setup by the enemy in the Body of Christ to create legalistic laws to keep us bound to what they think is holy, not what God says holy.

Bless our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, for all things will be brought into Him in the end. Glory to the Father in Heaven and to the his Son, Jesus Christ forever and ever, AMEN!

I apply Jesus' words to my life and that of my family's life everyday, Mike. Thank you for being concerned though.