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No More Giggle Factor

Cathy Booth Thomas has a fairly comprehensive overview of the space tourism industry at Time Magazine. I didn't see any mistakes in it, except I'm not sure what she means about Dreamchaser being Russian derived. I thought that it was based on the HL-20. That vehicle was inspired by a Russian design, but she probably should have mentioned the Langley heritage.

Posted by Rand Simberg at February 23, 2007 08:25 AM
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Well, the Delta Clipper, aka Clipper Graham, DC-X etc was never meant for NASA: it was a SDIO project.

Posted by Aleta at February 23, 2007 12:18 PM

I don't think the HL-20 was derived, even loosely, from a Russian design, if that is what you mean.

I believe the HL-20 design was based on earlier lifting body designs, notably, the HL-10.

Posted by terry putnam at February 23, 2007 12:24 PM

I was just going on Mark Wade's site:

"The 'luxury' crew rescue vehicle option was the Langley Research Center's $2-billion HL-20 which was loosely based on a Soviet spaceplane design."

Posted by Rand Simberg at February 23, 2007 12:34 PM


> I believe the HL-20 design was based on earlier lifting body designs, notably, the HL-10.

The HL-20 was a scaled-up version of the MiG-105 (without the variable dihedral).

The only thing derived from the HL-10 was the name.

Posted by Edward Wright at February 23, 2007 12:42 PM

But NASA did take over and run the DC-XA

Posted by anonymous at February 23, 2007 06:08 PM

Yep, and literally ran it into the ground.

Posted by Mike Puckett at February 23, 2007 07:21 PM

But in fairness (and sadly), that was because DARPA had gone through its available funding*, and the project was technically dead for a few days, until Dan Goldin allowed the use of discretionary money to move it to NASA. The best decision he ever made, IMHO, in that it allowed us to get more operational data from the vehicle.

* And sometimes virtual teeth pulling was required to get them to use the money as intended:

http://www.islandone.org/SpaceAccessUpdates/930716-SAS-Alert.html

http://yarchive.net/space/launchers/dc-x.html

Posted by Frank Glover at February 25, 2007 11:33 AM


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