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"Very Winnable"

That's what that famous chickenhawk Michael Yon says Iraq is.

[Evening update]

Sigh. I hoped that the "chickenhawk" appellation was obvious sarcasm, but for those to whom it wasn't, it was.

Posted by Rand Simberg at January 16, 2007 06:06 AM
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Last Throes, Redux.

Posted by anonymous at January 16, 2007 07:26 AM

Anonymous is in his last throes?

That reamins to be seen.

Posted by Mike Puckett at January 16, 2007 08:00 AM

Rand, is "...that famous chickenhawk..." meant to be sarcasm, or are you actually calling him one in the pejorative sense?

Posted by snellenr at January 16, 2007 02:34 PM

I thought Mike yon did some military time and
bless his heart actually spends time in theater.

Technically, he meets the definition of CH,
but, wandering around a battle-space like Iraq,
bears an interesting amount of risk

Posted by anonymous at January 16, 2007 03:48 PM

Well, that all depends on what the definition of 'win' is.

Posted by Adrasteia at January 17, 2007 02:02 AM

wandering around a battle-space like Iraq,
bears an interesting amount of risk

Which you're only too happy to urge others to take on, but you're not willing.

Posted by McGehee at January 17, 2007 06:44 AM

"Technically, he meets the definition of CH,"

Your retarded version of a retarded definition perhaps Der Furher?

The common definiton of this ill-concieved term is one who never served. How can one advocate a future conflict they have never served in?

Perhaps now A J-H is chosing to move the bar by ramming it with his short bus.

For example: How could a service veteran be a 'Chicknehawk' for advocating a war with Iran when the war has not occured? You are arguing one must be a veteran of a conflict that has yet to occur in order to have standing to advocate it! A retarded stance by any objective standard.

I see anonymous continues to put exactly as much thought into his positions as his parents did into his conception. Errornious outcomes resulted in both instances.

Posted by Mike Puckett at January 17, 2007 09:07 AM


> The common definiton of this ill-concieved term is one who never served.

No, Bill Clinton never served (unless you mean serving the Soviet Union), but he was never defined as a "chickenhawk." The left loved the fact that he was a draft dodger and loved the way he used US forces in glorious little wars.

On the other hand, many who did serve get called chickenhawks. For example, Robert Novak. The journalist who called a chickenhawk said he couldn't find any military service in Novak's Who's Who listing. The reason he couldn't find it was because he didn't know "USA" stood for "United States Army."

I would say the common definition of chickenhawk is anyone the left wants to smear with accusations of cowardice (whether true or false).

But you really shouldn't expect a consistant definition when discussed a word invented by idiots.

Posted by Not Quite at January 17, 2007 10:00 PM

Chickenhawk n. A person enthusiastic about war, provided someone else fights it; particularly when that enthusiasm is undimmed by personal experience with war; most emphatically when that lack of experience came in spite of ample opportunity in that person’s youth.

Posted by anonymous at January 17, 2007 11:28 PM

And what part of that does not apply to Michael Yon do you not understand?

Even if that was a valid definition. Only a fool takes Wiki as authoratative.

Posted by Mike Puckett at January 18, 2007 07:20 AM

that definition comes from the NH gazette that maintains the
chickenhawk database, as for yon

"Yon is a former Special Forces soldier" so he's done some time in service, and he is willing to wander around the battlefield.
Hence Yon is in the grey area, it's not like Simberg, who
has never risked anything, anytime, ever.

You puckett, did some time earning as an E-6, which is
very different from these psuedo-intellectuals
who have no clue what war is like, but, are quite sure
the US should be invading tehran

Posted by anonymous at January 18, 2007 08:52 AM

To think Yon could be in a 'Grey' area is to demonstrate the intellectual bankrupcy of the term 'Chickenhawk'.

I can think of a name for those who overuse and abuse the term. I call it 'Chickenshits'.

Posted by Mike Puckett at January 18, 2007 12:42 PM

puckett

with 6 years in service you are draft eligible.

Do you think the US Government should start drafting
former service members for Iraq?

The army is going to increase strength, wher should they
get these people?

Posted by anonymous at January 20, 2007 01:38 AM


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