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Just What Kind Of Democrat Is He?

Glenn comments on Webb's classy behavior.

I hope, if not expect, that this is why the Dems victory will be short lived.

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 11, 2006 06:37 PM
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Remember that he quit as Sec of the Navy because he thought Reagan was cutting the number of ships too much.

Congratualtions Democrats, you now have our own McCain.

I predict that in 6 months, him and McCain will be bestest buds.

Posted by Mike Puckett at November 11, 2006 07:10 PM

Mr. Simberg is fishing for straws, trying to eke out what little he can from the Rethugs loss. Once again proving who he shills for...

Go read the Washington Post today and understand what kind of person Webb is....his #1 concern is the welfare of the economically downtrodden; he's said that time and time again; #2 is to correct the idioncy of the current Iraq policy and help us have a sane foreign policy; #3 is to respect the constitution - even to the extent of saying the patriot act deserves to be revoked. Better still go to Jim Webb's website. He has even said he is pro-union since (his words) labor needs an agent!!!!

Still love him??? Haha.

In your dreams guys...keep hoping......you lost...and the kind of Rethug party you want will never come back..if the Rethugs come back they will look a lot like the Dems who won this time...not the recently deceased party you supported.

Posted by AnonElections at November 11, 2006 07:18 PM

And, one more thing: Puckett, if Webb acts like McCain, that's great as long as it is the McCain of a few years back - independent and honest. Many will never forget the Rovian plot waged against McCain in the 2000 primary - the disgusting demonizing tactics of the Karl Rove Rethugs that lost McCain the nomination and gave us Bozo for the last 6 years.

If Webb becomes another McCain, more power to him.

Posted by AnonIraq at November 11, 2006 07:57 PM

I wonder if you will still be as happy with McCain after he is elected Pressident in two years?

Posted by Mike Puckett at November 11, 2006 08:12 PM

At first I thought behavior like our Anon poster above was just another indication of the Left being boorish, graceless winners. Now I'm begining to think that they intend to bring on Brownshirt tactics: Once you get some power, keep attaciking your opponents who are expecting civil behavior in return for their acquiesence to your attaining some power. To the thuggish, civil behavior is a form of appeasment, and Leftists, like all good little authoritarians, know that appeasement is a sign of weakness and something to be exploited.

If you thought the last few years were ugly, and you voted against the GOP because you wanted the ugliness to stop, because "can't we all just get along?", did you ever make a mistake. You put in a position of power people who intend to put that power to use. (The Dems are already bickering over who gets investigated first, the Executive branch or "Big Business", but investigated they will be.)

Posted by Raoul Ortega at November 11, 2006 08:12 PM

I for one welcome thir endless and pointless investigations. Watching them bicker over them is like watching two outlaws bicker over the quality of new rope not realizing thye will hang at the end of it when all is said and done.

If the thing America voted to be annoyed by a bunch of tinfoil based moonbat investigations for the next two years, they are in for a rude awakening in two years.

The lefts answer for everything come from 1973, 1974 and 75. It's the old "Cut and Run" and "Investigate Endlessly" double feature.

Problem is Amerca don't care for those old, tired reruns anymore. Ask the 1998 Republicans if you don't believe me.

Posted by Mike Puckett at November 11, 2006 08:20 PM

Having just finished Webb's book "Born Fighting" I am pleased to have Webb as a Democrat.

Some moonbats will not be, but so what?

He appears to be very strong on national defense (albeit he believes the Iraq adventure was a strategic blunder of epic proportions) and yet an economic populist.

Posted by Bill White at November 11, 2006 08:40 PM

I just read an interview on another board where Jhon Tester went on record supporting a repeal of the 1986 Machine Gun Production Ban.

Mabey some common sense and respect for the Constution is actually creeping into the Democratic party.

The proof, as always, is in the pudding.

Posted by Mike Puckett at November 11, 2006 09:31 PM

Rand,
So you mean that Webb wasn't actually a spawn of satan, mysognist pervert who will doom us all if he gets elected? ;-)

So Glenn for one welcomes our new Democratic Overlords?
~Jon

Posted by Jonathan Goff at November 11, 2006 10:35 PM

Well, Jon, I'll tell you this. If they end repealing AMT, it would be worth having them in power for a couple of years and then some.

Posted by Pete Zaitcev at November 11, 2006 11:37 PM

Peter,
No joke.
~Jon

Posted by Jonathan Goff at November 12, 2006 12:14 AM

No wonder Kos was going ballistic about the DNC the other day.

Posted by McGehee at November 12, 2006 07:18 AM

"Rand,
So you mean that Webb wasn't actually a spawn of satan, mysognist pervert who will doom us all if he gets elected? ;-)

So Glenn for one welcomes our new Democratic Overlords?
~Jon

Posted by Jonathan Goff at November 11, 2006 10:35 PM"

Perhaps one or two of them. I doubt he has changed his opinion on slimebags like Schumer or Durbin.

Posted by Mike Puckett at November 12, 2006 07:59 AM

What about Senator Stevens of Alaska? Tubes of the intar-web & bridge to no-where Stevens?

Many Democrats are already looking for a strong 2nd Amendment Alaskan Democrat like Webb or Tester to take on Stevens.

If the Democratic majority is to be short lived (2 years?) then fielding a primary challenger to Stevens may need to be one of the items on the GOP agenda.

Posted by Bill White at November 12, 2006 08:23 AM

Rand seems unhappy that Webb has class and dignity.

Posted by anonymous at November 12, 2006 08:42 AM

It is good for the republic to elect conservative democrats. What is sad is that it has taken this long for the democrats to figure this out. Remember how Ronnie and the effective majority that he had got things done.

We have been electing Bud Cramer to the House for a long time and he is a dem. Party lables are meaningless, conservative (in the sense of conserving the vitality of the republic) values are timeless.

Dennis

Posted by Dennis Ray Wingo at November 12, 2006 08:59 AM

Rand seems unhappy that Webb has class and dignity.

And you seem nuts.

Why would I be unhappy that the Democrats have finally elected someone with class and dignity? I think that it's an encouraging sign for a sick political party.

I just find it hilarious that so many were complaining about Allen's confederate flags, when Webb is much more prone to praising the confederacy and rednecks (he even wrote a book about it).

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 12, 2006 09:14 AM

"Rand seems unhappy that Webb has class and dignity"

Would only that you chose to emulate Webb's example. I'll bet Webb isn't a boring, repetitive asshole either.

Posted by Mike Puckett at November 12, 2006 09:17 AM

Four weeks ago (or thereabouts) I wrote that Webb beating Allen would be a valuable first step for reforming the Democratic party. I stand by that.

Anyway, I am truly a "Billy Yank" born in Michigan and raised in Illinois. Jim Webb's book about the Scots-Irish has done a better job at showing me the that the Confederacy was not merely about slavery than any book I have read before.

= = =

Another thought. Read the opening pages of Born Fighting which describes the Scots-Irish people and their migration across Europe and into America. About always wanting to see what is over the next hill. About the Pioneer Ethic and each generation's desire to push a little farther into unknown territory.

If Webb has written honestly, then in my opinion the permanent settlement of space is something he would embrace enthusiastically if only we can convince him it is feasible. Not to plant flags, or do science or make money but to set down roots and raise families.

= = =

Webb also explains how our Iraq adventure was based on the same mistake that led the British to believe that invading the Carolinas would crush the American rebellion. Instead it led to Kings Mountain and Cowpens.

British leaders were mislead by royalist exiles from the tidewater regions who persuaded them that the colonists of the Carolinas would greet the British army with relief and gratitude.

Posted by Bill White at November 12, 2006 09:42 AM

Simberg says:

"I just find it hilarious that so many were complaining about Allen's confederate flags, when Webb is much more prone to praising the confederacy and rednecks (he even wrote a book about it)."

There's a difference between "praising" the confederacy for reasons different from supporting slavery (Webb) and faking a love of the confederacy based on insecurity about oneself (Allen). Moreover, it is very clear that Webb is no racist, with Allen that is not at all clear: " Welcome to America, macaca," as he spoke directly to S.D. Sidharth, the young man born and bred in Virginia, the only colored person in a crowd of several hundred.

Allen was a fake, we all know it now. The Rethugs should be glad he has no political future. This was evident at least for the last few months; Simberg cheered Allen along nevertheless.

Posted by Anon at November 12, 2006 10:17 AM

If simberg is so pleased with Webb, why does
he write down "the Dems victory will be short lived".?

That sounds like the bitter carping of an angry neo-con who
is distraught that Jim Webb has been gracious in victory.

Honestly Rand, stooging for the GOP is really unbecoming.

Posted by anonymous at November 12, 2006 11:56 AM

"Why would I be unhappy that the Democrats have finally elected someone with class and dignity?"

You seemed pretty silent about Allen and his macaca comment, or Allen acting all shocked that Webb's fiction books had [gasp!] sex scenes in them. So why the sudden concern with class and dignity?

Posted by Peter Williams at November 12, 2006 01:36 PM

Rand, you are much more patient than me. After the incessant and repetitive pseudo-intellectual spewage from these anon idiots, I would have to block their IPs. I'm all for reasoned debate but their trolling is getting ridiculous.

Posted by Bill Maron at November 12, 2006 05:57 PM

I'll comment on Webb when I see his Congressional voting record. Will he vote like the moderate that he is, or will he kowtow to the hard left that now runs the Senate?

I know enough about McCain - First Amendment tromping guised as campaign finance reform and the Gang of 14 outrage - that I would never trust him as President. I can't see how he could even get the nomination if the Republican base is so opposed to him, unless zillions of Democrats cross over to vote in the GOP primaries. Maybe that'll be Kos' next trick.

Posted by Alan K. Henderson at November 12, 2006 11:15 PM

Alan - I can't see how he could even get the nomination if the Republican base is so opposed to him, unless zillions of Democrats cross over to vote in the GOP primaries. Maybe that'll be Kos' next trick.

No worries there - people on DailyKos despise McCain more than they despise Hillary.

Posted by Matthew at November 13, 2006 05:04 AM

Many Democrats are already looking for a strong 2nd Amendment Alaskan Democrat like Webb or Tester to take on Stevens.

Having lived in Alaska, I am of the firm opinion that people up there will never elect a challenger to their "Uncle Ted." If he died during a re-election campaign they would still re-elect him.

Posted by McGehee at November 13, 2006 06:06 AM

I'm still waiting for Simberg to explain why he said
"The dems victory will be short lived".

Posted by anonymous at November 13, 2006 10:18 AM

I'm still waiting for Simberg to explain why he said "The dems victory will be short lived".

I didn't say that, Anonymous Moron. Learn to read.

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 13, 2006 10:22 AM

http://www.transterrestrial.com/mt-stats.cgi?entry_id=7993

" that this is why the Dems victory will be short lived.

Posted by Rand Simberg at 06:37 PM"

Simberg

You may want to invest in eye-glasses or a visit to the
Nuerologist.

Posted by anonymous at November 13, 2006 05:44 PM

Here is a Jim Webb video with Lou Dobb(s).

His book Born Fighting points out that the poor whites the rural South have largely been screwed over by all of the American elites including Wall Street and corporate America.

Jim Webb will make lots of people angry, both wingnuts and moonbats.

Good, say I.

Posted by Bill White at November 13, 2006 07:13 PM

Jim Webb with Larry King video.

Posted by Bill White at November 13, 2006 07:16 PM

Simberg

So why do you think the dem victory will be short lived?

Posted by anonymous at November 14, 2006 09:24 PM

You may want to invest in eye-glasses or a visit to the Nuerologist.

And you may want to invest in a reading, and spelling lesson, and read the whole sentence, instead of pulling a phrase out of context. What parts of the words "hope" and "not expect" are you having problems with, Anonymous Moron?

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 15, 2006 03:09 AM

Simberg

instead of name calling, why don't you just explain what you meant, then. It's really a sign of how poor your upbringing
was that you prefer name-calling to civil discourse.

Posted by anonymous at November 15, 2006 05:47 AM


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