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Chimpy, The Brilliant Moron

Here's a post that the trolls can comment about to their black little hearts' delight. The lefty troglodytes once again display their fascist thuggish tendencies, and cognitive dissonance, in their threat to "take it to the streets."

One of the laughable things about the charge of Bush ’stealing elections’ is that on one hand, the majority of the left looks at Bush as a clueless wonder, and have done so from day one. To them, he’s inept in everything he does - yet somehow “Dumbya” knows how to mastermind ’stealing elections’! They’ve never been able to explain how on one hand he’s the world’s biggest idiot, yet on the other hand has managed to orchestrate election fraud on a widespread scale. Probably because this, like so many of their other inconsistencies, is something they can’t explain.
Posted by Rand Simberg at October 21, 2006 08:26 AM
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Bush doesn't have to know much,

Rove now, he has to be bright

Posted by anonymous at October 21, 2006 08:58 AM

Ahhh Yes! The 'Chimpy McHitler' paradox.

Posted by Mike Puckett at October 21, 2006 09:28 AM

I'm reminded of Johnny Carson's Reagan skit where Reagan turned out to be smarter and more Machiavellian than a platoon of Roves.

Posted by McGehee at October 21, 2006 10:29 AM

I can add a few of my favorite moonbat ideas:

  • Bush hasn't asked Americans to sacrifice anything for the war on terror -- and three dead American soldiers per day is far too great a sacrifice.

  • Stop global warming -- but don't build nuclear power plants.

  • Feed the starving millions in the Third World -- but ban genetically-engineered crops.

Of course, the wingnuts have some goodies too. But the moonbats are somehow cuter when they spout theirs.

Posted by Jay Manifold at October 21, 2006 10:41 AM

Pretty ahistorical post you linked to - the author wonders why the Democratic defeats in the nineties did not raise claims of electoral malfeasance. Only, of course, the Dems gained in the house in '96 and '98, won the White house in '96, and only lost open Senate seats in '96. And while the wave of '94 was alway coming, Ralph Reed's illegal use of churchs and "voter guides" has been well documented by Larry Sabato and Glenn Simpson's "Dirty Little Secrets".

And of cource the strawman claim is that anyone actually thinks Bubbleboy really has anything to do with governing or political campaigns; the reality is that Bush is more disconected from actual decision making than any national leader since Hirohito. For both left and right, Bush is a figurehead who symbolic power only comes from his personal weakness, and the transparent ease with which he is manupulated by his courtiers.

And Jay - none of those cases are simple binary choices.

Posted by Duncan Young at October 22, 2006 04:23 PM

...the reality is that Bush is more disconected from actual decision making than any national leader since Hirohito.

Really? I think that most of us, who are actually grounded in reality, would think that this "reality" is actually an opinion.

Posted by Rand Simberg at October 22, 2006 04:53 PM

Rand,
How involved do you think Bush is in his own government? The implied "cognitive dissonance" would appear to assume as a hard logical fact that if indeed the GOP successfully engaged in vote stealing on a massive, yet undectable scale, it would follow that Bush's singular intellect would have to be directly responsible. That actually would seem to be much farther into the the realms of airy-fairy opinion than the idea that Bush is less involved in the day-to-day (or month-to-month) policy or political operations of his administration that any other postwar leader of a major country, based on all available evidence to date.

In other opinion: Cards by 1.

Posted by Duncan Young at October 22, 2006 05:22 PM

Duncan, how involved is any president in his own government?

Yes, I'll concede that Bill Clinton fired every US attorney in the country and replaced them with his own people upon taking office. But he had reasons other than the interests of the electorate...

Posted by Rand Simberg at October 22, 2006 05:26 PM

Duncan, how involved is any president in his own government?

Which is why I cunningly posed it as a relative question. (Admittedly, with the Reagan / Bush II comparison it is a close run thing, but I still give the edge to the septuagenarian with Alzheimer's). And of course, that meddling micromanager Jimmy Carter is taken as uniquely and personally responsible for Iran, stagflation, Afganistan and disco music in these pages.

Godwin's rule should now be extended to Clinton the First (and just to be fair, about five years from now, Bush the Second).

Posted by Duncan Young at October 22, 2006 05:46 PM

There are no stupid jet fighter pilots. None that last more than one mission, anyhow.

Posted by Ed Minchau at October 22, 2006 11:13 PM

Duke Cunningham was an ace, but I think the jury is in that he is a damn fool.

Posted by Duncan Young at October 23, 2006 01:08 AM

"There is book smart and the kind of smart that helps do calculus. But smart is also instinct and judgement and common sense. Smart comes in all kinds of different ways."

-- George W. Bush

I had seen liberals deride this quote, which does not speak much of their intelligence -- what Bush said is absolutely true, and only someone utterly convinced nothing Chimpy can possibly say makes sense would deny it. There are brilliant mathematicians with awful common sense, and other way around. Much more intelligent tactic on liberals' part would be to use that quote against Bush –- "And he is a perfect example –- a pilot and an engineer, completely disconnected from reality." But I never saw anyone on the Left say anything like that -– they are unable to grant Bush even that much.

As for Duke Cunningham, he is certainly a fool, of the thrill-seeker kind. He was not taking bribes because he needed the money –- he took bribes because he wanted to see how much he could get away with. Which is perfectly consistent with a personality of a fighter pilot –- and one could argue ALL fighter pilots are fools by definition.

Posted by Ilya at October 23, 2006 01:28 PM

I would argue that the second kind of Smart Bush is describing is actually the quality of Wisdom.

Wisdom is to knowledge what a rudder is to a sail. It does not matter how big you sail is if your rudder is missing. What good is knowledge if you can't sucessfully apply it or at a minimum defend it's validity? Not to even go into the relative values of different types of knowlege.

That is the problem with Leftists like Gore, Dukakis, Ted Kennedy, Carter and Kerry. I don't think they are stupid per se, I think they simply lack one cell of wisdom in their collective brains.

Not to mention that much of their world views are built on specious information that they at some point in their self-realization they chose to internalize as their core beliefs. I would argue some knowledge is of negative value and this is what the 'loose (screw)change' crowd represents with their election fraud and 9/11 conspiracy rantings and ravings. They have literally added to their inner core values views, beliefs and actions that in a more rational time would have been rightly seen as precursors to mental illness. They have fully embraced and given the weight of reality a fictional worldview that can never be made functionl.

They are a bubbling mass of self-contradiction and as long as they continue to live in denial, their mental well being will further decline. No matter how much one might wish it, 2+2 will never=5. Some will as Eddy Murphy once opined on SNL, go insane attempting to make a phonograph needle out of a peanut.

Now the moonbat fringe such as posts here on occasion under cute monikers like 'Independent' are actually stupid. So stupid they think they can piss down our backs and we really will believe it's rain. They would earn at least a modicum of respect if they would use their real names and not try and claim to be something they are not. A ruse so transparent even a small child could see right thru it.

Please pardon our umbrella of wisdom, we prefer to remain unurinated.

Posted by Mike Puckett at October 23, 2006 02:22 PM

That is the problem with Leftists like Gore, Dukakis, Ted Kennedy, Carter and Kerry. I don't think they are stupid per se, I think they simply lack one cell of wisdom in their collective brains.

Agree as far as first four go -- most of all Carter. Kerry, however, really is stupid in the sense of not being able to draw conclusions and take appropriate actions even when his own interests are at stake. Such as last election.

Posted by Ilya at October 23, 2006 02:30 PM

Just to keep everybody guessing, this is where I at least tangentially agree with Duncan by pointing out that the governorship of Texas is a largely ceremonial position. To say nothing of my desire to see a Missourian team win the Series. ;^)

Posted by Jay Manifold at October 23, 2006 07:41 PM

I would argue that the second kind of Smart Bush is describing is actually the quality of Wisdom.

Wisdom is to knowledge what a rudder is to a sail. It does not matter how big you sail is if your rudder is missing...

Mike, repeat after me: Forrest Gump was a movie.

Posted by Duncan Young at October 23, 2006 10:21 PM

And I would rather have Forrest Gump President than Jimmy Carter. At least Gump had common sense.

Posted by Mike Puckett at October 24, 2006 08:09 AM


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