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Us And Them Arnold Kling reminds those who have forgotten of the asymmetric difference between us and the real enemy (i.e., not the Bush administration, which seems to be the real enemy to much of the left, and too much of the Democrat Party): Posted by Rand Simberg at May 15, 2006 05:25 PM TrackBack URL for this entry:
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"9. Americans desire the approval and support of the European people. Radical Muslims desire the intimidation and submission of the European people." This American doesn't desire European approval, or expect their support. My ancestors left Europe for a good reason. (And I'm grateful every day that they got on those boats.) Posted by Barbara Skolaut at May 15, 2006 07:15 PMInteresting. While most Americans are aware of the differences, it often appears as though those who "inform" us...do not. Posted by only jo at May 15, 2006 08:20 PMThis is a great reminder. I get so frustrated hearing people bash the Bush administration, and never even comment about the atrocities that are occurring in Islamic communities. The Bush Administration may make mistakes, but at least they are trying to battle the correct enemy. Posted by super susan at May 16, 2006 10:05 AM#10 sounds a lot like the observation about the difference between Israelis and Palestinians: If the Palestinians stopped fighting, a compromise would be reached. If the Israelis stopped fighting, the Israelis would be slaughtered. Posted by Lurking Observer at May 16, 2006 01:20 PM"Americans go to war reluctantly, when other means fail." Actually, this isn't really true. The United States has engaged in military action on average about every two years over the past couple of decades, which is far more than most other countries. Just look at the past 25 years: -1981 Libya, Gulf of Sidra (again in 1989) (Probably missing a few.) One could argue that these actions were not "war," and one could argue that they were all justfified. But the United States has never been reluctant to use force against other countries. You confuse "taking military action" with going to war. Posted by Rand Simberg at May 17, 2006 08:02 AM
We want to fight bin laden, fight bin laden, We want > one could argue that they were all justfified. But the United States has never been reluctant to use force against other countries. I pay my bills frequently. Does that imply that I'm not doing so reluctantly? Posted by Andy Freeman at May 17, 2006 02:17 PM-1981 Libya, Gulf of Sidra - Libya fired the first shot You forgot to mention the Kosovo - which I opposed, since it involved NATO getting into a war in violation of its own charter (NATO is supposed to defend attacks against NATO members, which does not include Kosovo). The war destabilized the Serbian province; instead of Serbian aggression, there's now rampant Islamic terrorism. Posted by Alan K. Henderson at May 17, 2006 10:36 PMAll completely true -- and all irrelevant to the question of whether we should pull out of Iraq, and whether the Bushites lied to get us into it (out of their idiotic overconfidence that it would be, in Ken Adelman's immortal phrase, "a cakewalk". Thinking that one battle in a worldwide war was fought in a disastrously badly chosen place is, to put it mildly, not the same thing as opposing the war. I tend to think of this as the Cornelius Fudge Administration -- after the incompetent head of the Ministry of Magic in the Harry Potter books, who homes in obsessively on the wrong enemy and the uses one politial dirty trick after another to force all the other wizards to go along with him. Posted by Bruce Moomaw at May 28, 2006 06:38 PMActtually, let me qualify that: Kling's points #3 and 4 AREN'T completely true. Where the US abuse of POWs (under whatever name) is concerned, this administration is prosecuting a small sprinkling of very little fish while methodically covering up the unquestioned liability of high-ranking officials all the way up (at least) to Rummy. See Andrew Sullivan's blog for extremely extensive documentation. Second, there have already been TWO opinion polls of whether the Iraqis want us to leave -- run by ABC in early 2004, and the BBC earlier this year. Both of them found that the Kurds overwhelmingly want us to stay (but then, they also overwhelmingly want to split off as a separate country), while the Sunnis overwhelmingly want us to get lost. The Shiites were split about evenly in the earlier poll, but now seem to be leaning against us as well. Posted by Bruce Moomaw at May 28, 2006 06:45 PMPost a comment |