The New York Times, of all places, reports that Iraqi insurgents are fighting with Al Qaeda:

According to an American and an Iraqi intelligence official, as well as Iraqi insurgents, clashes between Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and Iraqi insurgent groups like the Islamic Army and Muhammad's Army have broken out in Ramadi, Husayba, Yusifiya, Dhuluiya and Karmah.

In town after town, Iraqis and Americans say, local Iraqi insurgents and tribal groups have begun trying to expel Al Qaeda's fighters, and, in some cases, kill them. It is unclear how deeply the split pervades Iraqi society. Iraqi leaders say that in some Iraqi cities, Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and local insurgent groups continue to cooperate with one another.

American and Iraqi officials believe that Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia is largely made up of Iraqis, with its highest leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian. Even so, among Iraqis, the group is still perceived as a largely foreign force.

Bad news, for those hoping for bad news from Iraq.

Rand:

I don't read the NYT for reasons of principle. That principle being I won't support organization trying to destroy America and its foundations.

That being said, I wouldn't be suprised if the NYT was framing this promising bit of news as the beginnings of civil war.

Bad news, for those hoping for bad news from Iraq.

I disagree Rand (wow, that's a 1st) Even though its possible that the NYT is trying to frame a civil war like Don suggested, it tells me that Iraqis are taking even more responsibility for their own future. Kick out Al Qaeda and you've taken a major step forward as a self-determined society. I think its a good thing. The plan is working.

You disagree? I didn't say I thought it was bad news. I think it's great news.

Whew, what a relief! :)

There's that Al Qaida which has nothing to do with Iraq in Iraq which has nothing to do with Al Qaida reference, too. "Al Qaida in Mesopotamia." Where, exactly, is Mesopotamia again?

This is not news to Rand and many others that have kept up with Michael Yon. On the other hand factions are, and have been a way of life in the middle east for a very long time. They are a vehicle used to grab power in non-democratic socities. Hopefully they will soon go the way of the Do-DO bird, at least in Iraq.