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Another Reason To Think We Made The Right Choice Ignorant Europeans are unhappy about the results of the election. Especially inclined to have an unfavorable opinion of Bush in those countries were people between ages 18 and 24. Well, there's an informed and thoughtful demographic. The polls suggest an increasing lack of understanding about Americans in Europe, rather than a surge of anti-Americanism, said Corman, who studies public opinion trends in Europe. Yup. You don't even have to look very hard to see it here in my comments section. Posted by Rand Simberg at December 13, 2004 05:05 AMTrackBack URL for this entry:
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Amusing. The "new Europe" dislikes Bush even more than the "old Europe". Fancy that. It's as if WWII had been erased from their collective memories. When you ignore a problem that's in your own back yard it will not go away, it will only grow worse. There is a cancer that the liberal immigration laws in Europe have allowed to flourish. Here in America we turn our backs on immigration from Mexico. It's a natural response to the lack of workers in the unskilled job market. There it's the same though their immigrants are better documented in most of Europe things just won't get done without their Work Visa'ed labor pool. So to get thing done they have allowed themselves to be inundated with a Muslim population who's political affiliation was not even considered when they arrived and now that the wolf is in it’s too late to close the door. So they sit and placate. Hoping the problem will go away. Sound familiar “mien friend”? Posted by John J at December 13, 2004 12:25 PMUh, Gojira? The survey was done in "Old Europe". Polling in the United States as well as Australia, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Spain There are no "New" (i.e. Eastern) European countries listed there. Anyway, this is America, since when have we cared what the rest of the world thinks? ;-> Posted by JP Gibb at December 13, 2004 12:54 PMIsn't Ignorant European, an oxymoron?? Posted by Steve at December 13, 2004 01:33 PMIsn't Ignorant European, an oxymoron? I think you mean redundant. No, I think that there are fortunately many non-ignorant Europeans. But few of them are Bush haters. Posted by Rand Simberg at December 13, 2004 01:42 PMI was making a pun on the US government's statements. But I guess my sardonic wit is spoilt on most Americans. My advice to those of you is to watch more Monty Python. John: FYI, most of these Muslims are either Turks (which you want us to accept in the EU remember?) or from our ex-colonies in Africa and Asia, which some people here in Europe think we sort of have a moral obligation of accepting (I don't, we got plenty of skilled people, working for peanuts, flooding in from Eastern Europe already). So our Muslims are sort of like your Cubans and Filipinos. We don't really need most of them, but they tend to stick around like glue. Posted by Gojira at December 13, 2004 03:43 PMI was making a pun on the US government's statements. Which statements would those be? But I guess my sardonic wit is spoilt on most Americans. Which "sardonic wit" would that be? My advice to those of you is to watch more Monty Python. I'm quite familiar with that program. Which particular episode would that be? Posted by Rand Simberg at December 13, 2004 05:08 PMTo get to the other side! [Crickets chirping] Hey, that's the punch-line to a classic joke, you're supposed to laugh!! Gojira---to make a pun, or to display wit, it would help to make the punch-line actually relate to the conversation accurately. And to suggest "Monty Python" as the height of Euro-humor is again indicative of where you're coming from---are you really suggesting a 30+ year-old program, from a state that by no stretch of the imagination fits the idea of "Old Europe" is typical of your humor? Hoooo-kaaaayyy. Finally, which Muslim countries did Norway rule to produce their Muslim population? Which Muslim countries did Sweden or Denmark rule? How about Holland? (The Dutch East Indies is not a correct answer, since there is neither a major Indonesian population in Holland, nor are they the ones responsible for the van Gogh incident.) Or does "our colonies" imply a trans-European sensibility and sense of responsibility for the actions of individual imperialist countries in the past? (I'm thinking an interesting expansion of liability here.) Posted by Dean at December 14, 2004 06:34 AMRand & Dean - - you are being mocked. And you play right into it. But be warned. If a froggie calls you a "con" its not short for "conservative" - - I have seen other Frenchies troll that gem on US-ian message boards. Gee, Bill, we're being mocked? REALLY? Gasp! (Shakes head.) Kids these days. Heh. But that would explain the odd idea that Europe is somehow unable to do anything about Muslims due to its remarkable sensitivities and sensibilities from its colonial past. Rather than simply being inaccurate, he was being funny! Posted by Dean at December 14, 2004 09:06 AMYes, all my previous comments in this thread were done tongue in cheek. I do not explain jokes. Either you get them, or you do not. Your loss. The Schengen signatories can complain that the loss of internal border controls is making the problem of illegal immigration worse. Additional freedom for ordinary citizens unfortunately usually makes illegal activities easier, but this is a small price to pay. The answer is obvious. Tighter outer border controls and better coordination between the police in signatory countries. Having disparate immigration policies in regions which have a common border does not make things easier however. Posted by Gojira at December 14, 2004 12:08 PMPost a comment |