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Will They Switch To Sangria In The Pubs?
Some researchers are saying that Irish, Scots and Welsh aren't Celtic. They're Spanish.
Posted by Rand Simberg at November 20, 2004 06:28 AM
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A new twist on the dark irish...
Posted by John Kavanagh at November 20, 2004 08:29 AM
I just don't accept this theory and here is why.... "My name is Enigo McMontoya, you kiled my father, prepare to die!!!"
(Mandy Patinkin to Christopher Guest in The Pricess Bride)
Or what about this
Antonio O'Banderas stars in "Once Upon A Time In Dublin!!"
Can you even see Steve Bucemi saying..." this guy walks in, he was the BIGGEST Irishman I EVER saw!!"
Posted by Steve at November 20, 2004 10:01 AM
I forgot something, just for "Rand needs a doctor"
(WTPFIC) in case he thinks is was demeaning either Celts or Spaniards.
Posted by Steve at November 20, 2004 10:04 AM
Well, they might have come from Spain, long before the Carthaginians, Romans, Visigoths, and multiple waves of North Africans colonized the place.
Aren't the Galicians Celtic?
Posted by Phil Fraering at November 20, 2004 02:43 PM
Shouldn't that be SHAWNtonio O'Banderas?
Posted by MrBillSmith at November 20, 2004 03:42 PM
Celts did indeed invade Iberia during the period of their expansion; whilst the "pure" Celtic type is generally considered to be bounded by the Ebro, the vast majority of the peninsula was inhabited by so-called "Celtiberians", widely regarded as the most vicious warriors in ancient Europe.
The Celtiberian language was a Q-Celtic language, similar to Gaelic, where /kw/->/k/ (the surviving Brythonic Celtic languages -- Welsh and Breton -- are classified as P-Celtic, where /kw/->/p/). To suggest that the "Milesians" (the last wave of prehistoric invaders, who presumably spoke a proto-Gaelic language) came from Iberia is hardly controversial, albeit there is no definitive proof.
Posted by John "Akatsukami" Braue at November 20, 2004 06:05 PM
Yeah, it does seem ironic that the "Celtosphere" - the British hinterland plus its colonies in Britanny, Nova Scotia, and Patagonia - is only *linguistically* Celtic.
- Although, there's a good portion of *Irish* culture, at least, which is very recognisably ancient Indo-European. Who else but a Hindu would write up a national epic based on a cattle-raid? An authentic Celt, that's who else.
Besides, even if these Celts are Iberian, they still won't be drinking Sangria, and Inigo still won't be putting that Mac in his name. Instead everyone should go learn Basque. Inigez Montoyetxe, anyone?
Posted by David Ross at November 20, 2004 08:08 PM
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