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Two Thirds Of The Way There SpaceShipOne flew to over two hundred thousand feet today. In a sense, as Jim Oberg points out (via Alan Boyle, and by the way, congratulations on the second anniversary of Cosmic Log), at that altitude, it could be said to be the first private manned vehicle to fly into space. It's looking more and more like that insurance company that funded the X-Prize is going to lose the bet, but I'm still hoping for an upset for the prize by some upstart. Posted by Rand Simberg at May 13, 2004 02:07 PMTrackBack URL for this entry:
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SpaceShip One Rock(et)s
Excerpt: [source, source] Scaled Composites of Mojave, Calif., is the builder of SpaceShipOne, an effort led by aviation innovator Burt Rutan.... Weblog: Low Earth Orbit Tracked: May 14, 2004 04:00 PM
Closer to the Prize
Excerpt: Scaled Composites appears to have the X-Prize all but in the bag. They are making this look all too easy. I hope they have continued success, and I look forward to their next flight. This is getting some mainstream coverage,... Weblog: TexasBestGrok Tracked: May 14, 2004 09:37 PM
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Something to ponder: Third Flight,that's two flights more than most spacecraft achieve Posted by kert at May 13, 2004 03:02 PMWonder what the chances are of the SS1 pilots being recognized with astronaut wings? NASA did award wings to X-15 pilots in the 1960s who flew above a certain altitude, but in recent years they seem to have narrowed the definition to the point of denying the title "astronaut" to payload specialists and the like, even after they've flown into orbit. Comments? Posted by Jeff Dougherty at May 13, 2004 03:03 PMWhen they get high enough. The Air Force requirement is fifty miles, I believe. He was ten miles short today. Posted by Rand Simberg at May 13, 2004 03:10 PMI know I'm in a minority (although I suspect it's a majority position on this blog) when I say that THIS is the coolest thing happening on the planet right now. I just hope that Scaled is doing a good job of recording all of these events for posterity. I can see them making more money off of the DVD (assuming the damn Chinese don't clone it) than they ever make off of paying passengers. What these guys are accomplishing puts the boys at NASA to shame. When's the last time NASA did something worthy of a spot in the Smithsonian? The Shuttle? I guess there is three available. You'd think one of them would wind up on Ebay soon (kind of like the Buran). Anyway, a pat on the back for Scaled. Posted by Dave G at May 13, 2004 08:45 PMAt the tail end of Scaled's announcement was a remark that a notice of a media event will be sent out very soon. They have to give 30 days notice to the X-Prize contest, and it sounds like they may have done that. Posted by Jeff Arnall at May 13, 2004 09:21 PMI wonder if those Mexican UFOs were watching the flight? Posted by Alan K. Henderson at May 13, 2004 09:55 PM"Wonder what the chances are of the SS1 pilots being recognized with astronaut wings? " Can the government award wings to private citizens who aren't employed the government? Okay they can. But do they? Posted by Brian at May 14, 2004 12:20 AMThey might for the first flight. After there are several dozen private astronauts, they'll complain that this is all suborbital and it just isn't the same thing. That's about the time a private concern will go orbital. After a bit of that, somebody will set up private astronaut certification. The last flight was 1/3 up. This one was 2/3. Yes, I think there's a good chance the next will be all the way. I haven't felt this kind of excitement for a space project since the first Shuttle flight. Posted by VR at May 14, 2004 01:33 AMWhen I read up on the X-15 program I thought that there were likely to But Burt Rutan's group is making this look easy. [quote] Launch conditions were 46,000 feet and 120 knots. Motor light off occurred AS I recall, 40 miles is approximately the altitude at which Columbia began breaking up. Rather fitting. Mark: Although the X-15 had its share of mishaps, including one noted and well photographed occasion when the airframe broke during an especially hard landing, it flew dozens, if not hundreds, of missions each as successful as this SS1 flight. Posted by billg at May 14, 2004 06:52 AMCertainly the X-15 program never managed to do I think that most X-15 pilots would be surprised to hear that. Posted by Rand Simberg at May 14, 2004 06:54 AMI wish Scaled would get another host for their website, it is sloooow...... Posted by B.Brewer at May 14, 2004 09:29 AMMark: I'll assume your kidding. The is the first time a Civilian designed/paid for vehicle has done what the X-15 did routinly, send up a vehicle and come back intact. Not the other way around. BillG: 199 flights. Of those 1 vehicle destroyed and the pilot killed when it went out of control during re-entry. 1 vehicle rolled after a landing skid collapsed, and the same vehicle is the one that 'broke-it's-back' during a rather hard landing. The same vehicle was re-built as the high-speed test vehicle version X-15A1 and was severly damaged when the experimental spray on heat-sheilding material did not work as expected. (Un-forseen shock-wave interaction from a dummy-scramjet on the ventral fin caused enough major damage to ground the A/C. It's the one in the Smithsonian IIRCC :o) Prior to actual flight testing, one vehicle had an ground mishap where the motor exploded during testing. Of them all I seem to recall 1 pilot killed and 1 injured. Out of 199, that's 196 successful flights. The major difference of course is that the X-15 WASN'T made for just altitude. It was a hypersonic, (low) speed test bed aircraft too. Randy Posted by Randy Campbell at May 14, 2004 10:15 AMWho cares about astronaut wings? Let's make a new designation, such as space man or space flight participant or such. Let astronaut and cosmonaut stand for government programs. Make a new word for the people who are paying their own way, whether by building it themselves or buying a ride. I was pleasantly surprised to see this make the front page (though not the lead story) of the local paper. They aren't very good about reporting on technical subjects, and spaceflight even more - if it isn't a big NASA mission or disaster, usually there isn't a word. It is nice to see this getting some attention from them. Posted by VR at May 14, 2004 02:06 PMAleta wrote: Who cares about astronaut wings? Let's make a new designation, such as space man or space flight participant or such. Let astronaut and cosmonaut stand for government programs. Make a new word for the people who are paying their own way, whether by building it themselves or buying a ride.
* Privateer (arrrr mate-y) Space Tourist kind of captures things nicely too. Posted by Fred K at May 14, 2004 02:10 PMWhile XCOR has no official position on the question of "what do we call them", I have a personal opinion. Titles like "aeronaut", "astronaut", "cosmonaut", and "aviatrix" are symptoms of the infancy of a given activity. When spaceflight is mature, we'll call them "pilots" if they wiggle the stick, and "passengers" if they don't. Posted by Jeff Greason at May 14, 2004 02:37 PMYes, when it is mature, of course. But people know the term "astronaut" and the folks that want to do this sort of thing always dreamed of being one. For the first few hundred flights, I would give everyone who passed pre-flight training and flies on the Xerus a high quality, signed "Private Astronaut" certificate complete with mission number. Separate, of course, from a "Private Astronaut Pilot" certificate. It's called "Marketing." Some of us would care even though we KNEW it was marketing. Posted by VR at May 14, 2004 05:06 PMThank for filling in the facts, Randy. I was too lazy to look them up.
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