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Why The Dems Will Lose Next Year Because they have Charlie Rangel as one of their spokesmen (sorry, no good URL): The U.S. acted illegally when its soldiers attacked and killed Uday and Qusay Hussein, a leading Democratic congressman complained on Tuesday, before mocking the military maneuver that succeeded in eliminating the brutal duo.Posted by Rand Simberg at July 22, 2003 08:42 PM TrackBack URL for this entry:
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How many troops did it take to knock off that bum Hitler? Posted by Alan K. Henderson at July 23, 2003 12:41 AMI agree it probably will be all too easy for "sophisticated" conservative analysts such as Limbaugh and Coulter to gleefully mock Rangel's comments. But the bottom line remains: will the war in Iraq really make the United States any safer? The Sept.11 attacks were carried out by an international organization financed by Arab individuals, although Al Qaeda undoubtedly benefitted from its dealings with some hostile governments such as the Taliban. So far, there is little compelling evidence that Saddam was involved in this. True -- he has been a sponsor of terrorism but hardly the biggest one (Iran would seem to be a much bigger problem in this regard). Some Al Qaeda camps have been destroyed in Northern Iraq, but they were located in areas controlled by the Kurds. The other important rationale for was the great danger posed by Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. Virtually all the presumed top-level architects of that program are now in U.S. custody, but it seems ( see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8908-2003Jul17.html ) their confessions so far do not match the Administration's dire predictions before the war. Absolutely no WMDs have been found to date. My "gut feeling" is some relatively minor amounts of biochemical weapons _eventually_ will be found, but the vast arsenal alluded to by the Bushies just doesn't exist. The emerging picture seems to be Saddam was just hanging on since the end of Gulf War I and he was incapable of attacking the neighboring states -- let alone the United States. This leaves humanitarian concerns as the best rationale for attacking Iraq. Saddam is a horrible monster who tortures people for pleasure, uses biochemical weapons against the Kurds etc. etc.. That's all true, of course -- but people were being slaughtered and tortured in Rwanda too. How come Americans and Europeans do not send troops there as well? This "liberation" will cost taxpayers (mainly American and British ones) money & soldiers' lives for years to come, and it is not at all obvious that it really will discourage future generations of Mohammed Attas from continuing the fight. I fear Gulf War II will cause additional Sept.11 2001's further down the road -- much as Tim McVeight reportedly drew inspiration from the Waco massacre. The importance of STATE-SPONSORED terrorism is overrated, IMHO. Most of these self-proclaimed "freedom fighters" (IRA, ETA etc.) in fact obtain money from individuals who sympathize with their goals as well as from criminal activities. Oh well...I guess we should be grateful for the new Israeli-Palestinian peace process at least. The President's commitment to this has been a pleasant surprise indeed. Lasting peace between Palestine and Israel will remove at least one major item from the Arab grievance list.
Hey Marcus, crack a history book, the Iraqis have been traders for millenia. Ever heard of Ur? Ur -> Uruk -> Iraq They're ALREADY capitalists, and it sounds like trade is picking up nicely there. Posted by David Mercer at July 23, 2003 01:52 AMMarcu$, FIRST! Since we went into Iraq and the world govermnments found out that WE WILL come looking for extremists, even the Saudi's have begun to crack down! Because they don't want us to come there and crack down for them. The U.S. has a history of defending both itself and less fortunate countries. As to Rwanda, one set of jerks at a time please. We'll get there, have you seen the pictures coming from Liberia, stand by, I'm sure they are watching CNN in Rwanda to see whats coming for them via Liberia. NEXT!! So the estimates of WMD were wrong, well could that be because we had no one on the ground in Iraq because the Democrats didn't want to hire "bad people" to be spies for us! NO spies means no intel, bonehead!! Besides, when is killing people like this EVER a bad idea anyway? WMD or not, they had to go, they harbored and supported terrorism. Saddam was personally PAYING the families of homicide bombers in Israel. That should prove they were not the good guys. We are the good guys!! FINALLY, Let me tell you something else, as a veteran, with both my sons in the military now, we all of us, that meaning every veteran since the draft ended in the seventies, stuck our hand in the air and took an oath to serve and if necessary die for our country!! All you jerky mealy mouthed nay sayers CANNOT stop that pride and dedication! Yes people are dying in Iraq and Afganistan, but they die for a reason and it ain't because of Saddam and his sons, its because they stand up for their country, their way of life and the president, WHOEVER THAT IS!! Better to die for Mr. Bush while fighting for justice, than for the Clintonistas while refueling in a supposed safe harbor, or while working at a desk in an American Embassy in Africa, or while standing guard in the snow in Bosnia. P.S. Ever get the feeling that people like Marcus are actually paid agents recruited by Karl Rove to discredit the opposition??? Whatever happened to the pragmatic, serious left? When did it get totally overwhelmed by, as Neil Young once put it, the "hippie dream"? Posted by Harry at July 23, 2003 07:25 AMMARCU$, what part of "We will root out the terrorists AND THE STATES THAT SPONSOR AND HARBOUR THEM" did you find confusing? Posted by CGeib at July 24, 2003 09:41 PM> MARCU$, what part of "We will root out the
MARCU$ Posted by Marcus Lindroos at July 25, 2003 04:42 AMUnlike Afghanistan two years ago, the Administration has done a very poor job linking Hussein to Al Qaeda. Which is of course irrelevant, since we have much broader problems than Al Qaeda. We aren't just at war with Al Qaeda--we're at war with all people who have been trying to figure out ways to kill us, and have been covertly at war with us (including the House of Saud). What happened on September 11 was that we finally figured this out. Apparently, Europe remains clueless. Posted by Rand Simberg at July 25, 2003 11:10 AM"We aren't just at war with Al Qaeda--we're at war with all people who have been trying to figure out ways to kill us,..." Roger that, Rand. Marcu$ is looking at Iraq through a pair of binoculars turned backwards. When some future Samuel Elliot Morrison writes the history of this time, it will be under a section labeled "War on Terror: Southwest Asian Theater, Mesopotamian Front." That's what the Left (and Europe) doesn't, or refuses, to see. Posted by CGeib at July 25, 2003 12:31 PMMake that Old Europe. Posted by CGeib at July 25, 2003 12:32 PMPost a comment |