Jay Rosen’s Questions

He has a couple about the Eason Jordan “kerfuffle:”

Overlooking the larger scene, Michael Barone of US News writes: “The focus of hatred in the right blogosphere is not Kerry or the Democrats but what these bloggers call Mainstream Media, or MSM. They argue, correctly in my view, that the New York Times, CBS News, and others distorted the news in an attempt to defeat Bush in 2004.”

Barone, a friend to the right blogosphere, is correct– and he’s being candid. The focus of hatred in the right blogosphere is the Mainstream Media. (For the Left it’s Bush, he says.) I want to know what the right blogosphere says back. Not to me, although that’s fine too, but to Michael Barone. Is he right?

I don’t know how to answer that question (though I agree with his diagnosis of the MSM from the perspective of the “right blogosphere”), because it’s a complex one (in the literal sense of the phrase). I don’t consider myself part of the “right blogosphere.” I doubt if Glenn Reynolds does either. Until we get past this simplistic need to label, I’m not sure that we’ll make much progress in having a dialogue (which leads to his next question):

In an effort to go dialogic, I asked Will Collier of Vodka Pundit (who got into it with Steve Lovelady of CJR Daily) a question that I hope is both pointed and open ended: Is the point to have a dialogue with the MSM or help cause its destruction? (Or is there a third and fourth alternative we should be discussing?) This is something the blogging world should take a moment for and reflect upon.

There’s at least a third (and probably a fourth and fifth, and…). The points are to get the MSM to 1) recognize that it has a problem with political bias; 2) to recognize that this bias tilts politically to whatever is meant by the “left” to those who accuse some of the blogosphere of being on the “right;” and 3) to come up with some means of addressing this issue, and some means of bringing accountability to those who spin the news in a certain direction while expressing outrage that their coverage is characterized as anything other than “objective.”

Howzat for an alternative, Mr. Rosen?

Jay Rosen’s Questions

He has a couple about the Eason Jordan “kerfuffle:”

Overlooking the larger scene, Michael Barone of US News writes: “The focus of hatred in the right blogosphere is not Kerry or the Democrats but what these bloggers call Mainstream Media, or MSM. They argue, correctly in my view, that the New York Times, CBS News, and others distorted the news in an attempt to defeat Bush in 2004.”

Barone, a friend to the right blogosphere, is correct– and he’s being candid. The focus of hatred in the right blogosphere is the Mainstream Media. (For the Left it’s Bush, he says.) I want to know what the right blogosphere says back. Not to me, although that’s fine too, but to Michael Barone. Is he right?

I don’t know how to answer that question (though I agree with his diagnosis of the MSM from the perspective of the “right blogosphere”), because it’s a complex one (in the literal sense of the phrase). I don’t consider myself part of the “right blogosphere.” I doubt if Glenn Reynolds does either. Until we get past this simplistic need to label, I’m not sure that we’ll make much progress in having a dialogue (which leads to his next question):

In an effort to go dialogic, I asked Will Collier of Vodka Pundit (who got into it with Steve Lovelady of CJR Daily) a question that I hope is both pointed and open ended: Is the point to have a dialogue with the MSM or help cause its destruction? (Or is there a third and fourth alternative we should be discussing?) This is something the blogging world should take a moment for and reflect upon.

There’s at least a third (and probably a fourth and fifth, and…). The points are to get the MSM to 1) recognize that it has a problem with political bias; 2) to recognize that this bias tilts politically to whatever is meant by the “left” to those who accuse some of the blogosphere of being on the “right;” and 3) to come up with some means of addressing this issue, and some means of bringing accountability to those who spin the news in a certain direction while expressing outrage that their coverage is characterized as anything other than “objective.”

Howzat for an alternative, Mr. Rosen?

Jay Rosen’s Questions

He has a couple about the Eason Jordan “kerfuffle:”

Overlooking the larger scene, Michael Barone of US News writes: “The focus of hatred in the right blogosphere is not Kerry or the Democrats but what these bloggers call Mainstream Media, or MSM. They argue, correctly in my view, that the New York Times, CBS News, and others distorted the news in an attempt to defeat Bush in 2004.”

Barone, a friend to the right blogosphere, is correct– and he’s being candid. The focus of hatred in the right blogosphere is the Mainstream Media. (For the Left it’s Bush, he says.) I want to know what the right blogosphere says back. Not to me, although that’s fine too, but to Michael Barone. Is he right?

I don’t know how to answer that question (though I agree with his diagnosis of the MSM from the perspective of the “right blogosphere”), because it’s a complex one (in the literal sense of the phrase). I don’t consider myself part of the “right blogosphere.” I doubt if Glenn Reynolds does either. Until we get past this simplistic need to label, I’m not sure that we’ll make much progress in having a dialogue (which leads to his next question):

In an effort to go dialogic, I asked Will Collier of Vodka Pundit (who got into it with Steve Lovelady of CJR Daily) a question that I hope is both pointed and open ended: Is the point to have a dialogue with the MSM or help cause its destruction? (Or is there a third and fourth alternative we should be discussing?) This is something the blogging world should take a moment for and reflect upon.

There’s at least a third (and probably a fourth and fifth, and…). The points are to get the MSM to 1) recognize that it has a problem with political bias; 2) to recognize that this bias tilts politically to whatever is meant by the “left” to those who accuse some of the blogosphere of being on the “right;” and 3) to come up with some means of addressing this issue, and some means of bringing accountability to those who spin the news in a certain direction while expressing outrage that their coverage is characterized as anything other than “objective.”

Howzat for an alternative, Mr. Rosen?

Did Jordan Take A Bullet For The Team?

Where’s the video tape?

That was the question emanating from the blogosphere all last week. As many have pointed out, while we’ll take scalps occasionally, the Eason Jordan affair wasn’t about taking scalps (though I plead guilty to calling for his head if the tape showed the allegations to be true). It was about honesty and accountability.

Somehow, now that the chum of Jordan has been thrown to the sharks of the web, there may be a hope among many that the calls for the release of the tape, or a transcript (which may be much less damaging, for reasons I’ll explain in a minute) will die down.

Many are noting that if the tape exonerated, or mitigated Jordan’s alleged comments, it would have appeared by now. That’s true, but it misses a big part of the story. I don’t think that this was just about the MSM protecting one of their own. I think that it may be about protecting itself, or at least many members of it.

I have to wonder if that tape would show (and perhaps more starkly and much more graphically than a black and white transcript) not just Jordan’s words, but the approving reception of them by his Davos cohorts? The nods of recognition, the lack of any challenge, perhaps even murmurs of appreciation, until Rony Abovitz and Barney Frank spoke up. Gergen may have appeared concerned, and eventually changed the subject, but how long did it go on, and who was cheering Eason on? Was Iowahawk closer to reality than we thought? Who else will this tape embarrass (or should embarrass), and reflect poorly on?

Somehow, I suspect that if we were to see that video, it would provide much more than a brief glimpse into the soul of Eason Jordan. It might reveal the depths of the anti-military (and anti-American, or at least anti-Bush) sentiment in his colleagues as well, in an unguarded moment when they forgot that others were watching. And perhaps it’s their hope that by sacrificing Jordan, the rest of them can continue, incognito and unharried, in their undeclared war against the hyperpower.

Whether my speculation is correct or not, I don’t think that we should take Jordan’s resignation as a victory–it’s perhaps a distraction, and we should continue to demand the tape.

[Update at 2:30 PM EST]

A commenter claims that the remarks were off the record. How strange, then, to have an official videotape of a meeting that was supposed to be “off the record.”

[Another update a couple minutes later]

Bill Roggio has similar thoughts.

The Core Of The Issue

In the midst of deconstructing Michael Behe’s latest channeling of Bishop Paley, Ron Bailey agrees with moi about the Intelligent Design controversy (not surprisingly), and identifies the real problem:

It is not the role of public schools to confirm the religious beliefs of their students. Parents who want their children to benefit from the latest findings of science would reasonably be irked if evolutionary biology were expunged from the public school curriculum. There is another way around this conundrum. Get rid of public schools. Give parents vouchers and let them choose the schools to which to send their children. Fundamentalists can send their kids to schools that teach that the earth was created on Sunday, October 23, 4004 BC. Science geeks can send their kids to technoschools that teach them how to splice genes to make purple mice. This proposal lowers political and social conflict, and eventually those made fitter in the struggle for life by better education will win.

My comment was:

if science is a religion (in the sense of a belief system, which I think it is), then is it a legitimate subject for public schools? As I’ve said previously, this is largely a symptom of a much larger problem–the fact that we have public schools, in which the “public” will always be at loggerheads about what subjects should be taught and how. But given the utility of learning science (something that I employ every day, whenever I troubleshoot my computer network, or figure out what kinds of foods are good or bad for me), I think that it is an important subject to which everyone should be exposed. But if I were teaching evolution, I would offer it as the scientific explanation for how life on earth developed, not a “fact” or “the truth.”

The problem arises when some scientists, blind to their own faith and its tenets, come to believe that their beliefs represent Truth, and that those who disagree are fools and slack-jawed yokels. And with that, I come full circle in once again agreeing with Hugh that the media does a disservice to the debate when it doesn’t respect the beliefs of those who feel that their children are being indoctrinated away from their faith.

We will never resolve this conflict as long as so many continue to insist on a “one-size-fits-all” school system.

[Update a few minutes later]

Along those lines, here’s a pretty scary story (though not a new one, to anyone who’s been paying attention), or at least it should be for parents with kids in public schools:

According to benchmarks for middle school education, the top objective for the district’s math teachers is to teach “respect for human differences.” The objective is for students to “live out the system-wide core value of ‘respect for human differences’ by demonstrating anti-racist/anti-bias behaviors.”

Priority No. 2 is where the basics come in, which is “problem solving and representation

Congratulations To ESA

I guess. Ariane V (ESA’s version of the Space Shuttle, in that it’s an overpriced white elephant) had its first successful launch yesterday. A previous attempt a couple years ago was a failure.

[Update in the evening]

A commenter points out that I was too inspecific in describing the vehicle that failed:

Hehe, talk about misleading news postings. Even though you might hate the french, you could stick to facts.

The Ariane 5 G version has launched succesfully 19 times and failed once.
Ariane 5 EC-A, which is an upgraded version, was now launched succesfully for the first time, having failed once before.

So your post would be correct if you said “Ariane 5 ECA had it’s first successful launch”.

While I stand second to none in my dislike of the French, my snark was more aimed at stasist government space programs, and unjustified Arianespace triumphalism.

Weird Comment Spam

On and off, for weeks, I’ve been getting comment spam similar to this:

<h1>You may find it interesting to check out some helpful info in the field of- Tons of interesdting stuff!!! </h1>

There’s no URL associated with it, only an email address, usually from something like absinth968@hotmail.com, or absolut4806@freemail.com, though the numbers might change.

Although MT Blacklist will remove them, they have to be done individually, because there’s no common URL or IP address to key on (fortunately they only come a few at a time, never, so far, in a flood). And also since there’s no URL, there’s no way to blacklist them in the future.

I don’t understand what the purpose is. They’re not getting any google effect, or even link through, since there’s nowhere to link to. Are they just clueless comment spammers, who don’t get the concept, or is this harassment, or what?

[Update a little while later]

Well, here’s another one:

<h1>You may find it interesting to check out some helpful info about… </h1>

This one’s from a ” jane_doe7117@work.com.”

No URL, no idea what (s)he’s talking about, or why I’m being spammed with this stuff.

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