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Jonathan Last says whatever you do, don’t go see Justice League. I was curious to see more Wonder Woman.

16 comments on this post.
  1. ken anthony:

    So the take-away is short Warner and watch Linda Carter reruns?

  2. DarkstarSF:

    *shrug* I liked it, though I wouldn’t say it’s up for a Best Picture mom.

    FYI I would call T:R only slightly better. What are you looking for in a comic book movie?

  3. DarkstarSF:

    *Best Picture nom.

  4. McGehee:

    Looks like the best DC movies had Gary Oldman in them.

  5. MikeR:

    Don’t know what was bothering him, and he didn’t bother to explain. It was a pretty good movie, cheerful and light-hearted. I liked the characters, even Batman.

  6. Rick C:

    Guy’s got no idea what he’s talking about. Case in point, he mentions there not being a standalone Batman? Guess he didn’t get the news that Batman was the saving grace of Batman v. Superman. Nor that Affleck’s already looking to exit–apparently he’s getting to old for that.

    At any rate, it wasn’t an awesome movie, but it was pretty good, and it’s already made an estimated $150M US.

  7. MikeR:

    I should add that I’m the kind of guy who tends to like movies (and books), as long as they don’t insult me or disgust me. I happen to think that that’s lucky for me, as opposed to your average movie critic who only sees flaws.
    But in any case, this movie was just not that bad by any rational standard. And there such terrible terrible movies out there. “Mother”, for instance.

  8. Karl Hallowell:

    And there such terrible terrible movies out there. “Mother”, for instance.

    I read Wikipedia on this and thought at first that someone had vandalized the article due to the complete absence of proper names in the plot outline (. But no, everyone in the film is known only by impersonal nouns or pronouns like “mother”, “Him”, and “cupbearer”.

    And here’s the paragraph about the title, which is “mother!”.

    Aronofsky said that the title’s exclamation mark “reflects the spirit of the film” and corresponds to an “exclamation point” of the ending. The director discussed the film’s unusual capitalisation in a Reddit AMA, saying, “To find out why there’s a lowercase ‘m’, read the credits and look for the letter that isn’t capitalised. Ask yourself what’s another name for this character?” The characters’ names are all shown in lowercase, except for Him.

    Sounds like the credits might be the most exciting part of the film. Reminds me of the business people who will spend weeks on a logo, finally justifying it in a long-winded act of pretentiousness, only to discover after the fact that it looks like a penis.

  9. David Spain:

    I like my genre’s separate. When these stories were printed and inked on paper I found them just an unconvincing then in the “comic books” as I do now that they are digital ones and zeros in movies.

    Superman, Batman, Ironman stand alone. As a kid I never got into Wonder Woman, but then as a kid I wasn’t that much into Spiderman either. I certainly never felt the compelling need to mix them.

    As such I never felt the need for the “Infinite Earth’s” solution long term tinkering with the Superman story line lead to either. Why argue over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

  10. George Turner:

    I’m skipping it because Aquaman is no substitute for Superman, even though Superman pretty much made the rest of the Justice League unnecessary.

    By the way, Despite what dreamers and the DNC might claim, none of Trump’s immigration orders would apply to Superman because Superman is a US citizen at birth.

    8 US Code § 1401:

    The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
    (f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

    Maybe (f) is a loophole, but it’s one Superman flew through.

  11. Paul D.:

    Marvel movies are simply more fun.

    Daughters and I went to see the Thor movie on friday. It was enjoyable.

  12. Rand Simberg:

    I thought Wonder Woman was good. Maybe they should just put Jennings in charge of the entire DC franchise.

  13. cthulhu:

    I’m ready for the taxi medallion system to apply to all comic book based movies: the producer has to buy a medallion for each new movie. Medallions start at $1 billion and increase in geometric sequence for each additional movie. I would also be in favor of adding Star Wars and Star Trek movies to the same system.

  14. Vladislaw:

    The review got it totally wrong on the numbers

    ” Justice League looks like a mere disappointment. Sure, it cost $300 million, and Warner Bros. was hoping to make upward of $1 billion on it—but it’s still likely to take home something like $225 million domestically and then several hundred million more overseas”

    Here is from

    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $171,546,643 35.6%
    + Foreign: $309,800,000 64.4%
    = Worldwide: $481,346,643

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm1117.htm

    It looks like it will do close to a billion as projected.

  15. wodun:

    The numbers you gave are pretty much what you quoted as being “getting it wrong”. Grossing close to a billion isn’t the same as more than a billion. These movies tend not to have long lifespans but who knows, there isn’t a lot of competition right now and its been a pretty terrible year for movies.

    Right now they have under $200 profit looking at just the cost to make the film, not counting promotions. That is not a stellar return on investment. But considering how many movies have done this year, not losing money would be a big accomplishment. I think they would be happy grossing close to a billion. It wouldn’t be great but it would justify making another one. Sometimes you have to grind it out before you hit a big one.

  16. wodun:

    I am not sure why people are expecting more from these super hero movies than what they are, popcorn flicks. A good one is just an average movie.

    The movie sucked! All there was was implausible fighting, mailkinis, unhumanly muscled men, and explosions! The only thing that would make it worse is fast cars.

    The real problem with these movies is that they cost so much to make. If they could get their costs down to $100-150 million then the return on investment would be a lot better. Hard to do with the special effects and ensemble casts.

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