In many ways, but also in the way that the last one was: By the IRS, which continues to target conservative groups. And it may continue under Trump, albeit possibly with different targets, but it definitely will under her. And he can be impeached and removed.
[Update a few minutes later]
Six ways the State Department tried to cover up her emails.
Man, that Trump dude is just crazy to think the game is rigged. I guess he was listening to these people too much.
4 million dead people are voting (some since 1944.) Only 6 people of those were removed last year by one officer working on the problem. Illegals are voting (who knows how many, but it could be as many as 20 million.) Hillary has paid organizations in republican states admitting to massive fraud. Voting laws are designed to allow fraud and ignored where it might catch any.
The media will not talk about this except to quickly state it is ridiculous. Doesn’t happen. Move along.
After the IRS is caught, they don’t even slow down in their bias to this day. The media is a super-duper PAC for Hillary. Because it is illegal for a campaign to coordinate with a PAC they use a paid 3rd party organization for deniability. They organize ‘birddog’ riots (paid by Hillary but with Sanders signs) and the media blames any fight on Trump supporters. The police in San Jose route Trump supporters through a mob then do nothing to protect them.
The ground troops are told to do anything they think they can get away with because Hillary is insulated by levels of organizations. They control the justice dept. and wave laws so they only apply to their enemies.
They know if any are caught it will be seen as an isolated case and the media will cover over it. All paid for with unwitting taxpayer dollars.
If Hillary gets elected we deserve the resulting one party system.
Now you should understand the lack of intellectual curiosity of the shills working for Hillary. I’m sure I haven’t even scratched the surface.
I love this description of how State tried to cover up Clinton’s emails:
So they were going to cover up her emails by … releasing them. Now that’s a sinister plan!
Trump Is Right; The Election Is Rigged
I see we’re already reached the “making pitiful excuses” phase of the campaign. If anyone has “rigged” the election it’s the GOP state legislatures who, no longer hindered by the pesky Voting Rights Act, worked tirelessly to make voting harder. In NC they admitted to collecting data on voting behavior so they could precisely target black voters with new obstacles. Now, in an amazing display of chutzpah, the GOP turns around and claims that balloting — administered by those same GOP state governments! — is rigged against them. It’s ridiculous and pathetic.
So they were going to cover up her emails by … releasing them. Now that’s a sinister plan!
It is a very common lawyer tactic to provide a profuse disorganized mess of docs when not revealing info is no longer a viable option… and you know this Jim.
Do republicans want to slant the results in their favor? Of course they do, but most will not cross the line of breaking the law. Dems crossed that line so long ago because they couldn’t win otherwise.
As for the timing, the correct time to address the subject is before it happens with prevention (I know you’d prefer after the election is stolen because that gives the dems even more illegal and unethical options.)
What about George Wills point that fighting against laws to make voting more secure is done by those same cheating dems?
Diamond and Silk don’t seem to have a problem with showing ID and probably wouldn’t have a problem with inking a finger (high contrast polka dots I’d suggest!)
Your intentions to increase voter fraud are obvious when you claim that voter id, and out of precinct restrictions, and cutting off early voting early are somehow a means to disenfranchise minorities.
There is absolutely nothing here that prevents minorities from voting.
There is absolutely nothing here that prevents minorities from voting.
Which is exactly what they said about the poll tax, the grandfather clause, literacy tests, etc. Minority voter suppression has a long and ugly history, and here you are applauding it.
Liar. Quit conflating issues. IDs are free in every state.
You’re lying as you try to justify fraud. You know, I think I’ll come down there and vote Trump. In as many different precincts as I can travel to between now and November 8th. I’ll probably cast a few thousand R votes along the way. Oh, and I’m Canadian. But you know what? I won’t get caught, because I won’t have to show ID.
Try and stop me. Anything you do to try to stop me, you’ve already labeled as racist. What have you got against people of Prussian descent, you racist?
IDs aren’t always free. You have to get to a state office, and presumably you don’t have a car. I’m guessing it would cost me at least $50 to take a taxi to and from the nearest DMV. You have to have identifying documents, which can cost hundreds of dollars, if they’re available at all. And the burden isn’t equitable — for most voters it’s no burden at all, while for others it’s virtually insurmountable.
Imagine if the requirement was that you had to memorize the lyrics to a verse of Beyonce’s “Single Ladies”. That would pose no obstacle to Beyonce fans who’ve heard the song a million times, and a minor but surmountable obstacle to the rest of us. But not everyone would go to the trouble, so such a requirement would push the vote in a Beyonce-fan direction. In the same way, voter photo id laws push the vote towards those who already have, or can easily get, photo id — and away from the rest. And multiple GOP officials have admitted that tilting the electorate in that way is the whole point.
Now you’re making things up. Stop it, please. Now go back to encouraging out-of-staters to vote in your state, democrat of course, just as Ed suggested.
What’s your response on Project Veritas?
Your ID excuse is a red herring anyway. You need IDs for:
alcohol, cigarettes, opening a bank account, getting food stamps (huh!), apply for welfare, apply for social security, apply for medicaid, apply for unemployment, rent, buy a house, drive, buy or rent a car, get on an airplane, get married, purchase a gun, rent a room.
But not to vote?
Which is exactly what they said about the poll tax
They? Oh, you mean Democrats.
Minority voter suppression has a long and ugly history
Yes, by Democrats. It is messed up how you are not only scapegoating Republicans for things the Democrats did but also claiming that actions to prevent Democrat shenanigans are worse than what Democrats did to blacks.
Then as now, Republicans want a clean voting system without shenanigans.
What’s your response on Project Veritas?
I’ll let you know when Veritas releases unedited tapes.
You need IDs for:
Nonetheless millions of adult American citizens manage to live their lives without the sort of ID required by voter ID laws. You want to make it harder for them to vote. It isn’t hard to guess why.
Republicans want a clean voting system without shenanigans.
Shenanigans like purging legitimate voters from the rolls? Shenanigans like researching when and how blacks vote, and specifically restricting those opportunities? Republicans are the masters of shenanigans.
I’ll probably cast a few thousand R votes along the way. Oh, and I’m Canadian. But you know what? I won’t get caught, because I won’t have to show ID.
When you check in at each of those thousands of polling places, who will you say you are?
“When you check in at each of those thousands of polling places, who will you say you are?”
I’ll just go to a local cemetery and find the name of a registered Democrat.
Try and stop me.
I’ll just go to a local cemetery and find the name of a registered Democrat.
Try and stop me.
There’s a good chance the ballot clerk will stop you. One of the clerks on duty or other voters in line may know the deceased voter, or remember seeing his obituary in the paper. You may not look the right age to be that deceased voter. The deceased voter might have been purged from the rolls since you last checked them. Maybe your odds of getting caught are 1%, maybe they’re 50%. But if you do this, as promised, thousands of times, your odds of getting caught are 100%. You will be convicted of a felony, and for what? Your handful of votes aren’t going to change the outcome of a major race. To make a difference you need to recruit thousands of willing felons, and then too you’re definitely going to get caught.
There’s a reason only fools would try a stunt like this: the risk/reward ratio is prohibitively bad. If you really, really want to help one side win, you’ll get better results for your time and effort, at much less risk, by volunteering to go canvassing door to door.
Shenanigans like purging legitimate voters from the rolls? Shenanigans like researching when and how blacks vote, and specifically restricting those opportunities?
Oh please. You literally just make shit up to muddy the waters in a poor attempt for people to look at what Democrats have been doing for over a hundred years.
I am going to tell you something shocking. In a deep blue state like Washington, we require people have ID. We also give driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants so its a mixed bag. No one has any problems voting, not even people who shouldn’t be.
IDs aren’t always free.
Voting has never been free. It should always take effort. Removing effort is an invitation to fraud.
Sure, barriers can be targeted so should not be allowed. But requiring an ID is so low a barrier and helps protect the integrity of elections. Why would you not want that integrity protected?
Perhaps it’s racist to require ID for other areas of our lives. Let’s do away with that. If I can’t afford car insurance or get a drivers license isn’t it unfair to stop me from driving?
Illegals feel safe to march in downtown Phoenix and demand the right to vote. This wouldn’t be believed if it was an episode of the Twilight Zone.
Its the dense pack theory and we can see it working even when the emails come out in smaller batches. What Jim overlooks is that they were still going to destroy tens of thousands of emails. But then again, he keeps claiming everything was turned over, nothing was destroyed, and that there was nothing classified in them.
Is this what you’re talking about?
OMG!!! It’s a crime against minorities!
You are such a liar.
Funny how you always pick on republican states but deny the voter fraud in Minnesota, Illinois, Washington, etc.
Hey, you remember last week when Democrats said Russia was rigging the election and that DHS needed to step in and run things?
Did you see the undercover investigative report videos where Democrat’s wetworks people describe how they do voter fraud?
The same people who organize the voter fraud are the ones paid to organize violence and act as intermediaries between pacs, campaigns, and the DNC. These groups are funded by campaigns, the DNC, and the Democrat’s money laundering network.
In NC they admitted to collecting data on voting behavior so they could precisely target black voters with new obstacles.
Nope.
Yup.
Jim, funny how you always manage to try and deflect the topic at hand.
Nothing in NC is bad, even though you are trying to scream foul.
On the other hand, Project Veritas shows the blatant fraud of the democrat party.
What do you have to say about Project Veritas?
Nothing in NC is bad
The courts disagree.
What do you have to say about Project Veritas?
Release the unedited tapes. Past Veritas projects have exhibited deceptive editing and smeared innocent people, to the point that the victims have been able to recover damages.
“Past Veritas projects have exhibited deceptive editing and smeared innocent people”
Prove your assertion.
O’Keefe had to pay Juan Carlos Vera $100,000 and apologize after he smeared Vera as a sex trafficker.
Jim, you tried raising that flimsy story in the past. It hasn’t gotten any better with age.
You should go watch the videos and then you can speak about what you see. Blanket denials without knowing what you are talking about don’t cut it. There are plenty of things you will find to support your assertions if you only go watch the videos.
Of course, there are plenty of things that show Democrats still engage in organized voter fraud and still organize violence at their “mostly peaceful” protests.
“O’Keefe had to pay Juan Carlos Vera $100,000 and apologize after he smeared Vera as a sex trafficker.”
Nice try Jim but pathetic.
Tell me, if you ask someone what color the sky is, and they say blue, are you in error if you report that the person replied the sky is blue?
How is O’Keefe to know he was playing along since….he was playing along?
Did Vera immediately inform O’Keefe that he called the police?
I didn’t think so.
Again I ask you to prove your assertion. You haven’t.
Actually I demand you prove both assertions:
Prove that PV has exhibited deceptive editing.
Prove that he knowingly smeared innocent people.
C’mon Jim youi love to throw grenades into the conversation but when asked for proof you become a onsie-wearing shrinking wallflower.
Prove both assertions:
Prove that PV has exhibited deceptive editing.
– To do this you have to have the unedited tapes – which you lament they have not released. So how can you say they are misleading?
You can’t.
Prove that he knowingly smeared innocent people.
Your example is astonishingly silly:
how could they “knowingly” smear the guy if Vera “plays along” (yeah right) and then calls the police (also yeah right).
how do we know Vera didn’t realize how he exposed himself and then called his *COUSIN* to create an alibi?
We don’t.
You don’t.
In fact there’s a lot you don’t know.
Gosh,
Once I moved to a new state and I didn’t have time to register. I couldn’t vote that year. It must be anti-white racism.
Get real.
You didn’t quote anyone admitting anything and the quote you did provide was someone’s alternative interpretation of things with selective and edited quotes.
It was the ruling of a federal judge. But if you want quotes, how about:
Once again, your quote doesn’t show what you claimed. Reading it actually refutes your claim that racism is involved.
want to protect their majority
From fraud.
Republicans in the South know how dirty Democrats are. It wasn’t so long ago Democrats were lynching them.
Jim writes:
”
It was the ruling of a federal judge. But if you want quotes, how about:
Longtime Republican consultant Carter Wrenn, a fixture in North Carolina politics, said the GOP’s voter fraud argument is nothing more than an excuse.
“Of course it’s political. Why else would you do it?” he said, explaining that Republicans, like any political party, want to protect their majority.
”
Ok Jim so in the above you take the man’s word for it.
But when a Democrat Commissioner of the board of elections says there’ s rampant fraud….no no no you won’t accept his word.
Your partisanship is utterly transparent.
Well, if Obama said it, it must be true! Right, Jim?
It is hard to think of an innocent reason why Democrats spend so much time, energy and money, scarce resources all, resisting attempts to purge the voter rolls, that is to remove people who are dead or otherwise have left the jurisdiction.
Time and time again such purges have removed thousands of living citizens — predominantly poor and minority citizens — from the rolls. Of course such crude attempts at vote suppression should be resisted.
It’s hard to think of an innocent reason why they fight so tremendously against Voter I.D. laws.
Here you have a self-styled “conservative” and advocate of limited government making the “why not?” argument for government regulation. Voter id laws fail the first test of any regulation: can you show that it addresses a real problem. No one has even tried to show that voter impersonation at the polls is a real problem. But we know with certainty that voter id laws create a new obstacle to voting for millions of registered voters.
What are you going to do to stop me, Jim?
State regulation, not Federal. It’s completely different.
So limited government conservatives are now in favor of unjustified regulations as long as they are enacted at the state level?
“So limited government conservatives are now in favor of unjustified regulations as long as they are enacted at the state level?”
Yes Jim.
Just what is it about Federalism that you don’t understand?
Clearly everything……..
So Jim, do you know WHY limited government people are more ok with State law than Federal?
You you have the slightest clue?
I didn’t think so………………
Once again you show yourself utterly ignorant of the Founding principles of the country.
The point isn’t that limited government types like George Will prefer state laws to federal ones. It’s that they throw their limited government principles out entirely to support unjustified state voter id regulations.
There is nothing about wanting to have a voting process with integrity that is not “limited government.”
“It’s that they throw their limited government principles out entirely to support unjustified state voter id regulations.”
Your point is pointless because to you they are unjustified.,
To normal people they are reasonable and in fact necessary.
Actually, I think it is the blatant, obvious efforts (exclusively by Democrats) to commit voter fraud are the things to be resisted. But that’s just me. I know, Jim, that you think you will always be immune to assault by the government. But you won’t be. I guarantee it.
Jim has a business. That makes him both rich and evil (facts be damned.) He thinks they’ll never come for him.
The bad news is the Obamacare rate increases are going to hit mostly people that are already Trump supporters.
Voter id laws fail the first test of any regulation: can you show that it addresses a real problem.
If only Democrats ever followed that fictitious rule.
Voting fraud is real but Democrats have put forward no solutions on how to bring integrity to the system. Why not do that and take the issue off the table? Why is the the only issue Democrats refuse to regulate or use government to solve problems?
Voting fraud is real
An exhaustive survey found 31 allegations of voter impersonation fraud at the polls — the only sort of vote fraud even possibly affected by voter photo id laws — out of 800 million ballots cast. Voter impersonation is not a threat to the integrity of elections. Voter id laws are.
It isn’t something that is even checked for so saying there were only 31 allegations is meaningless. And ID doesn’t just impact people who vote in person but also people who vote by mail.
As long as there is a registration, you can vote. Whether or not that registration should exist or if the person voting is the person registered is never checked.
We all know the crime statistics show all over the crimes committed and not just the ones reported. /s
And ID doesn’t just impact people who vote in person but also people who vote by mail.
What are you talking about? The question is whether voters should have to show photo id to prove that they are the registered voter they claim to be when they show up at the polls to vote.
No one has even tried to show that voter impersonation at the polls is a real problem.
Retract this lie Jim or lose any shred of credibility. Saying it happens but not enough to change any election does not support your lie.
Jim won’t even admit that the criminals and morons of his own party (e.g. Obama, Gore, Kerry) have complained that the election system was rigged.
The election system is “rigged” by voter id laws, voter roll purges, restricted voting hours, long lines at polling places, felony disenfranchisement, etc. Those are the things that Republicans do in broad daylight to discourage or prevent citizens who are likely to vote for Democrats from casting a ballot, and they affect millions of votes. The voting lines in Florida alone are estimated to have discouraged 200,000 voters in 2012.
voter roll purges
Voter rolls should be regularly culled for people who have died or moved, pretty sure its required by law.
restricted voting hours
Sure, why can’t we vote for 2020 elections right now? There are no “restrictions” that implies voting is hard to do, it isn’t. People get weeks to vote.
long lines at polling places
When you have weeks to vote, why wait until the last second and then complain about lines? How fast does a voting line move? That there is a line, doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
felony disenfranchisement
This is just due to institutional momentum. Republicans are law and order types. But Democrats only favor felons voting because they vote for Democrats, the party of crime.
The voting lines in Florida alone are estimated to have discouraged 200,000 voters in 2012.
Why would standing in line with your fellow Americans participating in our most cherished institution be discouraging? I miss standing in line to vote. From what I remember, the line size was dependant on what time you voted and they usually moved pretty fast.
If lines are really a concern for you, then Democrats should be working to add more polling locations and telling voters to read the voter’s pamphlet before they show up so it takes less time to vote.
Voter rolls should be regularly culled for people who have died or moved, pretty sure its required by law.
Of course. But through some combination of incompetence and malice states have also thrown thousands of living, breathing, legal voters from the rolls. For example:
That’s 12,000 legal voters denied the right to vote, for an election that was decided by 536 votes. For more on purges, see this.
How fast does a voting line move?
In 2012 in Florida people were spending several hours in line, a significant hardship for anyone with a job, child care responsibilities, medical challenges, etc. And of course the lines were worst in the low-income, minority neighborhoods. Republican election officials can tilt the vote simply by skimping on polling places and hours in some areas.
If lines are really a concern for you, then Democrats should be working to add more polling locations
And how are they supposed to do that in states run by Republicans who see more polling locations, longer hours, early voting, etc. as a threat to their power?
How are you going to stop me, Jim? Maybe I’ll come to your county and say I’m you and vote Trump. Then when you go to vote, surprise! you’ve already voted.
What are you going to do to stop me, Jim?
You see? Jim completely ignores the fact that my post – to which he replied – refers NOT to Republicans but Democrats.
Of course, since Jim is incapable of defending the indefensible what other choice does he have?
Hillary: “Bush was selected not elected”
Alan Shulkin – Commissioner of the Board of Elections, New York City:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3Gj6qudFk
And because we know Jim won’t watch it – even though everything you need to know is in the first 21 seconds, I’ll transcribe it here:
Shulkin: “I think there’s a lot of voter fraud. Right. Like I say, people don’t realize certain neighborhoods in particular, they bus people around to vote. They bus them around. They put them in a bus and go poll site to poll site.”
There’s lots more but of course, Jim will say “Nothing to see here. Move along”
Later on he says something that would make Jim’s head explode (given this is a Democrat):
1:15 mark:
“You know I don’t think it’s too much to ask somebody to show some kind of ID.
Interviewer: “And you are saying there’s a lot of absentee ballot fraud too?”
Shulkin’s reply: “Oh there’s thousands of absentee ballots. I don’t know where they came from.
And no editing break between question and asnwer.
Lastly:
Interviewer: “Hillary Clinton doesn’t support voter ID laws.”
Shulkin: “I know that’s why I’m not crazy about everything the Democrats do either.”
And it goes on.
So who do we believe?
Jim with his laughable, unproven comment that there are only 31 cases of real fraud?
Or the Democrat Commissioner of elections board, NYC?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I think there’s a lot of voter fraud.
And yet he apparently hasn’t tried to prove even a single case. Anyone can wave their hands, I’d like to see actual evidence. For example, his business about buses. The challenge to large-scale voter fraud isn’t transportation. It’s actually casting large numbers of votes under assumed names, without anyone getting caught and giving up the scheme. Seeing buses at polling places tells us nothing about whether that’s happening.
laughable, unproven comment that there are only 31 cases of real fraud
31 cases of documented allegations of impersonation fraud. If you know of more, let the researcher know, he’ll happily add them to the list.
So who do we believe?
Believe evidence.
“Anyone can wave their hands, I’d like to see actual evidence. ”
That’s rich coming from you……who can never support any statement you make and when you are asked for evidence all we get is crickets.
Frankin got elected thanks to felons voting.
Want evidence? You’ll have it when you go to vote and find out I’ve already said I was you and voted Trump for you.
O’Keefe brought down ACORN
O’Keefe exposed Foval and he was fired this week.
O’Keefe then exposed Creamer and he “stepped down” – yeah right…he was dumped.
Today an O’Keefe video debunked an assault claim:
“A woman who accused a Donald Trump supporter of punching her outside a Trump rally in North Carolina is backtracking after James O’Keefe and Project Veritas released video showing Democrat operatives claiming she was a trained activist.
69-year-old Sharon Teeter of Asheville now says it is possible that 73-year-old Richard L. Campbell merely touched her accidentally, as his attorney had claimed all along.
Originally, Harris told local ABC News affiliate WLOS, “He stopped in his tracks, and he turned around and just cold-cocked me.” She also added a pointed, rhetorical question — namely, whether “people find a Trump supporter punching her in the face deplorable.”
Now, however, Teeter is changing her story rather dramatically. She told WLOS on Wednesday that “it’s possible that he could have struck her with his backhand.”
Yeah I can see why Jim would want to devalue PV – O’Keefe is single handedly ripping the cover off the stinking putrid rot that is the Democrat Party.
O’Keefe brought down ACORN
It was renamed and stayed in business at the same address. Tax dollars still go to it.
O’Keefe also exposed Wasserman Schultz and she was fired.
And of course none of those people who were fired were guilty right Jim?
It’s obvious why you’d like to disbelieve PV.
How about some evidence they purposely edited the tape to mislead, Jim. You’re such a sticker (hahahahahahaa) for evidence.
You made the assertion..now deliver the evidence.
Jim that’s not the sort of rigging those people were talking about.
Jim, if the Alinskyite Witch is elected, what kind of things do you want her to take away from you for your own good? I’m just curious how deep the “liberal”* masochism runs in you.
*And by “liberal” I mean of course “tax-happy, coercion-addicted, power-tripping government sniffer and State fellator.”
Jim has his ticket for 1 on 1 time with the material girl (talk about your state fellator), and that’s probably something Hillary would want.
By the way, for fans of groveling, gee-I-wish-I-could-be-a-serf gamma males, I think I have a Baghdad Jim sighting here:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/10/it-happened-to-me-alt-right-turned-me.html
The cultish hero worship is something that really creeps me out about Democrats. I used to wonder how ancient cultures could think their leaders were literal gods in the mortal world but now it isn’t such a mystery. Politics really is religion for the left.
My prediction if Hillary wins, is war. Not war with Russia because Hillary has been trying to be buddies with Russia her whole life, especially over the last eight years. Not war in Syria either because that place is already a giant mess.
Hillary will pick some smaller country that she thinks will be easy, like she did with Libya. It will be someplace jihadis are fighting and will be on the south side of the Sahara. Some possible candidates are Sudan, Nigeria, Chad, Somalia, Central African Republic, and Cameroon. She wont use a country where Christians are being slaughtered so that takes a few off the list.
The two most likely are Nigeria or Somalia.
Hillary has to prove she is as tough as a guy but she isn’t going to do that by going to war with Russia or China.
We all know China will do something dramatic shortly after the new President takes office, wonder what it will be this time?
“My prediction if Hillary wins, is war. Not war with Russia because Hillary has been trying to be buddies with Russia her whole life, especially over the last eight years. Not war in Syria either because that place is already a giant mess.”
Well if she wins and caries out her idea of a No Fly zone in Syria, we are quite likely to have to destroy the Russian air defense system being installed now and there’s every chance of a fighter engagement between our fighters and Russkie fighters.
Dangerous stuff.
Poland