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…set phasers to racist:

By referring to Clarence Thomas as “a clown in blackface,” George Takei has taken away nobody’s dignity but his own.

Why is it okay for a Japanese man to use such racist language against a black man? Because of their relative positions in the hierarchy of grievances. Sure, Thomas is black, and therefore he’s a designated victim. But he’s also a conservative, and he’s explicitly rejecting the narrative of victimhood that underpins the entire “social justice” movement. Therefore, the black dude is trumped by the gay Asian dude. Takei can spew as much racist garbage as he wants, and he’s protected because he not only embraces his own victimhood, but he treasures victimhood itself like the purest gold. Without it, he’s just another washed-up actor from a schlocky old show about spaceships.

Not that I doubt Takei means what he says. He really is a huge racist.

Indeed.

[Saturday morning update]

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Thomas-Takei

42 thoughts on “Mr. Sulu”

  1. Not only does George like dick, he is a dick.

    I never cared much for his prancing around on TOS.

  2. I enjoy Takai, he is humorous and posts funny things on twitter. He was always one of my favorites on Star Trek. It disappointed me to see him use those words to express his displeasure.

    1. Read both sides of his feud with Shatner. Takei is and always has been a petulant child with a sense of entitlement that nearly matches Shatner’s ego and James Doohan’s sense of grievance.

  3. So being a faggot and a Nip gives higher victim status than being black from the South? who knew?? [Clean up in Aisle 10. Sorry about that. Can’t take a little vacation without something like this happening. I’m leaving it to see what my commenters were responding to.]

    2. In politically correct circles being a hard core adherent to current leftist nonsense gives you higher status than being a conservative of whatever background.

    3. A comment like John Cunningham’s would have earned deletion and blacklisting on any site of mine.

    4. You, Cunningham, are not cunning at all, but merely bigoted and racist. I disagree with Takei, but will not accept low-brow insults and stereotypes. If you return to this forum, you will find a long, hard road ahead of you to regain any respect from the regulars.

  5. Regarding the image and text Rand added comparing the Democrats and the Republicans:

    Takai votes for the only party whose majority supported the 1988 apology for the internment in Congress.

    Of course, Ronald Reagan signed the apology into law over Republican objections, but only after years of opposition to the apology, and after overcoming his concern that this whole apology thing was an attempt by the Democrats to embarrass the Republicans. Some of Reagan’s objection to the apology was based on financial considerations (he opposed the token sum) but he also opposed it because ” he had never been convinced that Japanese Americans had been “forced into internment.” Many, he believed, had gone to the camps “on their own volition.” See Reagan to Kean and Kean to Reagan, Baker, and Deputy Chief of StaffKen Duberstein, February 6, 1988, Box 2/Japanese American (576683-583999) of the HU 013-22 Collection, Reagan Library. from http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Maga.html

    1. “President Reagan’s response was negative, at first complaining to his staff about the “bad timing” of the legislation. By bad timing, he was referring to the 1984 election, his accomplishments on behalf of fiscal conservatism, and his call for a balanced budget and a line-item veto.”

      Look a squirrel!

      Lets manufacture some outrage and when Republicans don’t fall in line claim they really support whatever thing Democrats did that needs apologizing for.

      Same shit different decade.

    2. Once again, Republicans are being blamed for Democrat messes. It was the Democrats who put those Japanese-Americans (including a very good friend of mine) into those internment camps but somehow the Republicans get blamed for it.

        1. Larry, the Republicans were opposed to the apology. I wasn’t blaming them for the internment.

          But wait, that makes me wonder: should they (alongside the Democrats) be blamed? How many Republicans in office (or, heck, even out of office) spoke out against the interment?

          I can find one Republican who spoke out: Ralph Carr, the governor of Colorado. He has been honored for his outspokeness, outspokeness which, cost him his bid to be re-elected…

          Were there many others? Were there any others?

          1. I’ll answer my own question with a bold and falsifiable claim: In the US Congress, only Republican Senator Robert A. Taft (the son of President Taft) spoke out against the Japanese internment. His fellow Republicans did not.

  6. It should be noted that Takei wrote a lengthy post qualifying his views, at the end of which he apologized sincerely.

    I’m sure that won’t stop a lot of people from getting their rage on.

    1. I don’t know that I would call it “lengthy”, unless you mean “lengthy by the lowered attention-span standards of Twitter.”

      The apology was, more or less, as follows: “Oh my, that’s a lot of blowback; I better apologize. Here’s a couched apology in which I reiterate that I survived internment camps and fully believe what I said in my heart.” I wouldn’t exactly call that an apology.

      Not that he need apologize, really. Everyone has a right to their opinion and a right to express it openly. In fact, the open expression of one’s opinions makes it easier for others to come to a conclusion about whether or not to associate with that person.

      The one thing that such a non-apology does, however, is open the door for others to demand apologies to speech that THEY don’t like in the future. “Hey, I apologized for calling Thomas a ‘clown in blackface’, you need to apologize for saying that global warming isn’t real!”

    2. I’m sure that won’t stop a lot of people from getting their rage on.

      Were you writing that line for bob or George? Either way, the post from bob prior to yours sort of ruins your argument.

      Alas, Takei’s racism is that a black man shouldn’t be allowed to hold views counter to the Democrat Party, and if they do, then Takei and others will say they aren’t black. Happens way to often on the left.

      1. I don’t see what it has to do with my comment. It is well known that Takai is a Democrat and Justice Thomas is a Republican, but that’s the extent of their relevance to my comment. Rand posted an image-with-text, and I responded to it. I thought the important part of Rand’s image-with-text was to comment on the moral status of the Democrats and the Republicans, and so my reply was also a comment on the two political parties.

        Similarly, I also don’t understand Bilwick’s response to my comment. I certainly agree with Bilwick that it seems quite likely that Takai is a Democrat for many reasons, just as I’m completely certain that Justice Thomas is a Republican because of his well-thought-out ideological framework, and not simply because the Republicans freed the slaves. Rand’s image-with-text only makes sense if it is a commentary on the Republicans and the Democrats, not on Justice Thomas and Takai.

        1. But you guys haven’t apologized for slavery yet.

          Something tells me that Democrats were less concerned over apologizing for putting the Japanese in camps than they were in trying to scapegoat Regan for it.

          1. And by apologize, let’s mean personally give former slaves adequate compensation for their suffering.

        3. I don’t see what it has to do with my comment

          Bob, I’m aware of your lack of self awareness. Reagan apologized three decades ago, and you are still getting your rage on. That’s some hate you have there.

          1. When the premise of this conversation is that today’s political parties can be better understood by comparing 1942 with 1863, you criticize me for looking all the way back to 1988?

          2. That maybe yours and Takei’s premise, but I reject and substitute that we live in 2015, where a man like Clarence Thomas is allowed to hold a view opposing the Democratic Party and not have that view judged by the color of his skin. That when the color of his skin becomes to determining factor to the righteousness of his comments, as Takei has claimed, then such claims are indeed racial. The only people taking this country back to the 1980’s, 1940’s and 1880’s are regressive Progressives. Again, I reject that premise and will criticize backwards thinking people who try to put forth such a premise.

        4. The graphic-with-text that Rand posted (the “internet meme”) referenced the events of 1863 and 1942 as a way to judge the political parties, and that’s what I was responding to. Larry J, above, also looks backward by referencing those events and the KKK and Jim Crow as well. Since Rand and Larry want to learn from history, it is appropriate to discuss the history of the Democrats and Republicans throughout the 20th century, including the Reagan years.

          Above, I found two Republicans in office who opposed the Japanese Internment. Can you find even one more?

          1. Yeah, and Larry and Rand are responding to the backwards racist Takei. Yet you are demanding I find Republicans who opposed FDR’s Executive Order to Intern US Citizens of Japanese descent. I reject the premise that I must apologize for Democrat actions and will criticize backwards thinking people who try to put forth such a premise.

          2. The reason I want to count the number of Republicans who opposed the internment is that I’m wondering whether there was actually any difference between Republicans and Democrats on that matter.

            Aparently there wasn’t any difference, which makes Rand’s image+text internet meme thing even more silly, as it points out a contrast between the brave Republicans of 1863 and the silent (or colluding) Republicans of 1942.

            If you really want to hold only the Democrats responsible for the Japanese internment, then it follows that you’ll also hold only the Democrats responsible for…. well, for starters, victory in World War II.

          3. Japanese Internment was done by Executive Order by FDR. I’m sure you will still try and blame Republicans, because you are stupid enough to think we are ignorant too. Go ahead, count how many Republicans were Executives between 1939-1945. I would expect nothing less from someone as backward thinking, so willing to whitewash the racist history of 20th Century Progressives.

    3. “at the end of which he apologized sincerely.”

      Hardly an apology. He doubled down on his right to use racist slurs because they are common in theatre? His apology boiled down to, “It not racism when I do because THEATRE!”

      You can’t claim to be apologizing while you are also defending your use of racist language.

      1. Hardly an apology. He doubled down on his right to use racist slurs because they are common in theatre? His apology boiled down to, “It not racism when I do because THEATRE!”

        He didn’t say any such thing. It’s easy to win an argument when you simply stuff words into your two-dimensional opponent’s mouth. He said he didn’t live up to his own standards and he apologized. What else do you want him to say? That he renounces the Democratic Party?

        I’m sure you also looked skeptically at Rush Limbaugh’s apology for telling a caller (a black woman) to “take the bone out your nose” and call him back. Oh wait, you didn’t — because he never apologized for that. But then Rush likes to claim that any controversial statement he makes is “just joking” — which I actually think is true, and he’s a master of it. But that sounds an awful lot to me like “THEATRE!” too…

        1. I think Wodun, and certainly black people I have heard, expected an apology for Takei’s assumption that your race is dependent on ideological alignment to Democrats. The whole black face comment is just another symptom, but was hardly the most racist of the commentary. I don’t expect a person that agrees with Takei to notice the insult.

          A few questions regarding Limbaugh comment…
          How do you know the caller was black, and why do you think Limbaugh knew? Was there a video chat, or are you making racial assumptions?
          What is the racist connotation behind “bone in nose”? I see the insult, but I’m missing how this is a historical reference to race rather than suggesting antiquated concepts. Why should Limbaugh apologize for an intended insult?
          Also, why should Wodun or anyone else apologize for Limbaugh insulting a person which apparently offends you? Do you think it is the sincerity of the apology from Wodun that will make you feel better, or is it the notion you could demand Wodun take responsibility for third persons and submit to you that will make you feel better?

          Personally, I don’t think Wodun can help you over hate built on such convoluted ideas.

  7. Takei would like Thomas better if he were an “Uncle Tom” for The State. You can’t have “those people” bolt from the “liberal” Plantation and urging others to do the same. Real freedom could break out!

  8. “Takai votes for the only party whose majority supported the 1988 apology for the internment in Congress.”

    Yeah, I’m sure that’s the reason Takei votes Democratic. I’m sure otherwise the guy is some sort of maverick (for Hollywood)conservatarian who would vote Republican. No statism here!

    1. Takei votes for the party that put him into those internment camps in the first place. He votes for Democrats, the party of slavery, Japanese internment, the KKK, and Jim Crow because somehow the Republicans are racists. I’ve read that he isn’t particularly bright. This tends to confirm what I’ve read about him.

    1. Because according to liberals, the only authentic blacks are the ones that vote for them, just as the only authentic women are the ones that march in lockstep with radical feminists. Differing opinions are not allowed and those expressing them must be destroyed.

  11. THAT’S IT. I think we should replace Sulu with a younger guy that eats at White Castle!

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