Go home. You’re drunk.
This is not atypical. After a while, every page starts to refuse to load, or becomes unreadable, and you can paint weird things on it by just waving the cursor over various areas. It’s version 35.0.1916.114 stable, running in Fedora 20.
In frustration, I uninstalled and tried running the current beta. It had its own problems, with continual tab crashes and freezing the machine.
I switched a while ago from Firefox, for various reasons. Opera starts chewing up half my CPU after being up a for an hour or so. It just seems like every browser sucks.
In my experience any browser chewing up the CPU is a Flash thing, not a browser thing.
It often is, but not always.
Which video card drivers are you using? If it is an NVIDIA card are you using their binary drivers?
Yes, it’s Nvidia, with their own drivers, not nouveau. And while the other browsers have their issues, I’ve only seen this behavior in Chrome.
I should add, it just started a couple of days ago. There may have been some other updates that it doesn’t play with well.
What’s going on with the partly-drawn “something crashed” bar?
I think it was flash. I also think it’s not relevant. Many pages look like this without that. Tweetdeck is a real mess.
You might try using Chromium instead of Chrome. Since it is open source it should have been compiled specifically for your system unlike Chrome. However it does not have Adobe Flash support built in.
It looks to me like it is some sort of display driver bug but it may also be an application bug.
So it isn’t just me. That’s sort of a relief, I guess. Chrome has been wacky on my machine for some time. Firefox is buggy and erratic, but it’s still more stable than the ancient version of IE I’ve got that I can’t seem to update. Haven’t tried Opera. Not sure there’s much point after what I read here. Agree about the Flash thing. Flash misbehaves on all three browsers I’ve got. The software tumors are metastasizing.
Funny, none of that stuff ever happens on a Mac…
No, in my experience lots of other “stuff” does.
Yup…good stuff 🙂
Srsly, don’t understand your dislike of Apple (this is not the first time I’ve noticed it). From m perspective, it’s very high quality HW, a really nice UI, Unix underneath, and a terrific developer community. If it’s not your cup of tea, so be it, but ISTM you’ve displayed an antipathy toward Apple that goes well beyond “not for me”…
My dislike of Apple stems from a) my bad experiences with Apple products, b) my bad experiences with evangelizers of Apple products and that any perceived deficiency with the products is my fault, not Apple’s, and c) the high prices of Apple products. Don’t know what else to say. What is it I’m supposed to like?
I submit that Apple HW is no more expensive than comparable non-Apple HW; it is premium HW to be sure, but the “Apple tax” is pretty much a myth (you can find unbiased comparisons out there pretty easily). It’s much more limited in configuration options: hockey puck (Mac mini); all-in-one desktop (iMac); high end (Mac Pro); and two flavors of laptop (which usually come out on top of comparison tests though). I built my own PCs for years and ran everything from DOS+Windows 2 to OS/2 to Slackware to XP, but since moving to an iMac in 2007, I’ve never missed having nothing but memory to upgrade. YMMV of course.
As far as evangelists, having to deal with the CADT Linux acolytes whose answer to everything is either “rebuild your kernel” or “you’re doing it wrong”…well, I’ll take the Apple zealots any day 🙂
WRT “what am I supposed to like”: One area where I will say that Apple is head and shoulders above the competition is music creation, especially wrt mobile devices. I’m an amateur musician, and there are some truly amazing apps out there for making and recording music. You don’t have anything like that on Android due to the lack of the low latency audio APIs that iOS has built in. In my experience it is also much, much easier to do pro audio with Macs too, again due to vastly superior drivers; you don’t get stuck in ASIO hell.
Anyway, I’m not trying to convince you to switch, just was curious about the seemingly irrational Apple hate.
I don’t make music on computers.
I submit that Apple HW is no more expensive than comparable non-Apple HW; it is premium HW to be sure, but the “Apple tax” is pretty much a myth
No. It is more expensive. Plus you have limited configuration options. e.g. good luck getting a Bluray drive. I have seen a lot of people claiming Apple hardware is not more expensive on launch date but they usually compare against the higher priced PC brands that few people buy anymore. Plus after a quarter has passed the PC prices went down and Apple is still selling the same hardware at the same price.
CADT Linux acolytes whose answer to everything is either “rebuild your kernel” or “you’re doing it wrong”…well, I’ll take the Apple zealots any day 🙂
I have not built a Linux kernel for over a decade. What you get with Ubuntu or Fedora or whatever works fine. As for you’re doing it wrong syndrome you have clearly forgotten what happened with the iPhone 4 antenna episode. Apple is just as guilty of this if not more. Apple even specifically instructs the ‘Geniuses’ never to utter the words bug and error to anyone.
The advantage Apple has is, it is a single vendor. Also it’s disadvantage.
When I bought a laptop in 2010 or so, I considered a Mac instead of buying a Windows laptop and installing Linux on it. The closest equivalent Mac to the Toshiba I finally bought was 2.5x the price. I think it had an aluminium case, which would have been an improvement over the Toshiba’s plastic, but wasn’t worth $1500.
The iPad we own cost about 25% more than my Nexus 7, but has much less powerful hardware; I’m not sure you can even buy an iPad with similar hardware to the Nexus. However, in that case, Apple have clearly put some effort into optimizing the OS and applications, because it feels more responsive, even with a slower CPU and much less RAM (I’m guessing it’s because Google went with Java on Android).
Personally, I was always amused by the Apple fanboys when I worked for a company that produced (amongst other things) Mac software in the 90s, because my Sun workstation was only rebooted for hardware upgrades, whereas the Macs I sometimes had to use would often crash half a dozen times just trying to print out a document. Similarly, the NeXT machines looked great on paper, but were abysmally slow at… well, just about anything.
Back on the original topic, I haven’t seen similar problems in Chromium on Mint yet, but, yeah, all browsers seem to suck these days.
First time I used MacOS (7) I crashed the computer in 10 minutes. First time I used MacOS X I crashed the computer in 2 minutes.
Impressive.
How’d you do that?
OSX doesn’t crash especially easily; it is, after all, Unix(tm).
(Mac OS 7, on the other hand, was an unstable piece of crap, worse than Windows 95.)
My mac is the most wonderful and perfect thing I’ve ever owned – I’m in love. But guess what: I just recently saw the exact same “go home you’re drunk” screen that Rand experienced show up when I started up Chrome. And I like Chrome too – this is the first time I’ve had a problem with it. My aging sadly aging mac uses NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, for whatever that’s worth.
I’ve been using Epic for a couple of months now. It’s based on Chrome, and claims to be more secure than other browsers by blocking tracking software. It also has a built-in search engine that doesn’t keep track of my searches.
I like it. The only real problem I’ve found is that embedded videos don’t work on some sites. I haven’t figured out why.
The other thing is that I have to keep entering my name and password when I want to comment, since that information is not saved. But that’s more a tradeoff than a problem.
I don’t think it’s available for Linux.
I’ve found that blocking tracking can mess up some web pages in a way that implies an improper (deliberate?) dependence on the tracking.
For quite some time I’ve been running Opera 12.15, as the forums were filled with screaming about later versions that looked like Chrome and didn’t have anything like favorites or bookmarks.
If you’re on a later version you might want to try the earlier ones. Opera for Linux link, I think to 12.16, which includes a version for Fedora.
Have you tried:
* Epiphany-browser
* Midori
* Any of the KDE webkit-based browsers?
* Chromium instead of chrome?
You can always try Konqueror. I’ve only used it in limited ways but it seemed to work well enough and it comes with the Linux Distro you use.
BTW I much prefer Ubuntu to Fedora – my peripherals began to not work with Fedora updates. Never happens with Ubuntu. YMMV
I’ve been using Pale Moon recently. I’m on Windows, but the web site says it’s available for Linux. Pretty much a Firefox clone, but it appears snappier.
I use Chrome (the official Google binary) extensively with several hundred tabs and 10+ windows, all the time. Here is a tip:
Hit SHIFT-ESC to see a list of all your tabs, and how much memory and CPU each is using. It’s usually easy to see what is using CPU time.
The number one cause of instability on my machine is binary video drivers. I usually can’t keep my machine up for more than 3 weeks with either the Nvidia or the AMD/ATI binary drivers installed. Without them, the only time I reboot is when I upgrade my kernel.
Also, it might be an idea to run a memory checker. For me, at least, crappy DRAM has been the #2 cause of problems, behind the video drivers, and the problems it causes are really random and frustrating.
My last machine was an Opteron dual dual-core with ECC on the DRAM. I was shocked that it took me two attempts to get memory that was error free. One batch of DRAM was bad out the box, and the other deteriorated after a while.
The distortion during scrolling looks like a compositing/acceleration issue, and could be an interaction between your video drivers, your X settings, and Chrome. ie. It may not be chrome’s fault. There is a good chance you can work around your problem by messing with the flags in Chrome by going to the following URL: chrome://flags/ Try turning off hardware acceleration for different parts of rendering.
Finally, I was having problems with the new Chrome beta crashing with too many tabs, and I solved it by changing the maximum number of open files on my processes from 1024 to 8192, using “ulimit -n 8912 && su – ray -c google-chrome-beta” as root.
I’m unsure whether this is relevant because it’s on a Windows 7 machine, but I had similar issues last year. It’d scramble Firefox occasionally, but very often diagonally distort (diagonal shading bands) my desktops when windows were open but minimized.
The problem turned out to be my video drivers (I’m running a 3 screen system). I managed to fix it by going back to an older version of the driver. My mistake had been assuming that unchecking the auto update box would stop the thing auto-updating. It didn’t. I had to block it in my firewall. (I absolutely hate software that does things like that.)
It;s been fine since.
I have never allowed auto updates on my systems, I hate them. I only update (and only manually) in case of need, such as virus definitions or a needed security patch. Other than that, I follow a policy of “if it works, don’t try to fix it” and this saves me from many headaches.
Ghosting a system that works seems a good idea to me (keeping data and applications separate.) Don’t know how to do that on Linux but never had the need (well, fixed problems without it so far.)