35 thoughts on ““A Stunningly Stupid Thing To Do””
I know there is a bunch of bad blood between them but if Romney was smart, he would pick Newt for his veep. Newt is an awesome attack dog!
Whatching him debate Biden woud be like watching kittens be thrown into a wood chipper. It would be a massacre!
I figured Obama would cave. He certainly isn’t running to the center and he doesn’t even have a primary challenger to make him run to the left. Maybe he thinks that people on unemployment with higher gas prices are Obama voters.
He is gonna get shellacked. Clueless as a Deer caught in the headlights.
What’s the big deal? Who really cares about this pipeline? It won’t boost the economy at all. In fact, it will probably cost jobs — and increase our dependence on foreign oil. I’m sure Jim will back me up on this one. C’mon, post a link to some bullsh…uh, scholarly source.
What have the Canadians ever done for us?
You caught that one, eh? Tee-hee!
They gave us the Aqueducts Karl!
All right… all right… but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order… what have the Canadians done for us?
Hockey. Karl, they give us hockey. And oil. And Jeopardy and Star Trek.
…and that funny stuff they call Bacon and Maple Syurp and Milk in Bags and the Farm Film Report and John Candy!
They made curling, a game typically played while consuming beer, into an olympic sport.
And the Molsons Beer. Yes, lots of beer.
By sucking up to the environmentalists, Obama just pissed off a bunch of union construction workers and others who hoped to get a job building the pipeline along with the suppliers and support personnel. That was a stunningly stupid thing to do. File this under the “I’m still waiting for evidence that Obama is intelligent” category.
MfK, Liberals think the reason gas doesn’t put out fires is because we didn’t use enough of it.
[[[(Reuters) – The State Department has not made a decision on TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline, department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a briefing on Wednesday.]]]
The state department denied a permit for the 1,600-mile (2,700km) Keystone XL pipeline, saying it had insufficient time to review the plans.
Insuficient time and the original report was due at least six months ago, possibly longer….but it is those mean Republicams fault for making the Obamster Shit or Get Off the Pot!
Apparently Matula didn’t read the law anymore than the State Department press secretary. Congress gave the administration 60 days to make a decision. The State Department, by choosing to not issue a permit, has made a decision. The Obama administration has had 3 years to review the permit. Now the State Department is saying both that they are denying the permit because they don’t have enough time to review the permit, and then they are saying TransCanada can always reapply for the permit. The Obama administration doesn’t realize that businesses and jobs can’t just wait around for his 2012 re-election campaign to end, so that he can then consider making tough decisions.
Congress gave the administration a deadline because businesses can’t wait, but also because American taxpayers can’t to continue to pay the salary of State Department officials that refuse to make decisions. The administration needs to do their job or get fired.
Let’s see. Federal law requires projects must go through an environmental review before being approved. But Congress passed a law requiring a decision before the environmental review could be completed. So if President Obama approved it he would just open it up to lawsuits since approving it before the environment review is complete is illegal. So he made a decision to reject it, which is the only decision that is legal under both laws. Sounds like the Republicans didn’t want it approved. And the got their wish.
But as the State Department noted, correctly, it is legal for Keystone to start the process over by reapplying since President Obama satisfied the Congressional requirement to make a decision on the old application. So it looks like what the Republicans House did with their election year game ship was to actually delay it a couple of months. And you wonder why the Republican House has such low approval ratings?
Thomas, what part of ‘they had THREE years to complete the review’ is NOT getting thru your thick skull???
Obama just voted form more comflict oil and more foreign wars.
It’s all the GOPs fault. Never would the left pass some bill in haste. Ya know, before reading it.
Is there any credibility left?
And Obama is a real stickler for the law when delay works in his favor.
Obama bows to the Saudis.
Obama was elected–he won–to build the brave new world desired by the majority of Americans. He was open about his goals: end energy dependence on coal and oil. That won’t happen as long as mines are open, wells are drilled, and oil is refined. Most Americans are neither Republican nor Democrat but Green. If they approve of Obama and he will be re-elected.
Soooooo, what’s it like on your planet?
The problem is that there was not final route to approve. As discussed in this article, the Nebraska legislature and TransCanada were still working out a route for the pipeline to avoid the Sand Hills. I guess those darned Nebraskans don’t want to get oil in their drinking and irrigation water.
Where I grew up, an easement ran through our property and that of all of our neighbors. It allowed Shell Oil access to a major gasoline pipeline buried there. This was out in the boonies, farmland, where everyone got his water from wells. That pipeline (and hundreds like it) has been operating for more than 50 years without incident. Worrying about water contamination in light of the long history of pipeline operations isn’t prudent, it’s paranoid in a clinical sense.
Prudent or not, the state legislature had gotten TransCanada to agree in principle to a change. They had not actually agreed on a route for the pipeline.
And how is shipping all that oil across a friggin’ ocean to the Chinese necessarily better for the environment?
Didn’t say it was any better. The statement was worrying about pipelines was “paranoid in a clinical sense.”
Josh,
[[[And how is shipping all that oil across a friggin’ ocean to the Chinese necessarily better for the environment?]]]
Except the indigenous peoples are fighting to block the proposed Pacific pipeline as well. And it will take the Canadians at least two years to go through their OWN approval process 🙂
[[[Aboriginal leaders opposed to a C$5.5 billion ($5.4 billion) oil sands pipeline backed by Canada’s government warned on Tuesday that the project could devastate fishing and traditional life on the rugged Pacific Coast and called for it to be stopped.]]]
[[[The proceedings, expected to last two years, began at the community center in Kitimaat Village on the Pacific Coast’s Douglas Channel, the terminus of the proposed pipeline. Battle lines have already been drawn between supporters on one side and environmental groups and aboriginals in the province of British Columbia on the other.]]]
Fortunately, that will give President Romney a chance to reverse the damage.
I know there is a bunch of bad blood between them but if Romney was smart, he would pick Newt for his veep. Newt is an awesome attack dog!
Whatching him debate Biden woud be like watching kittens be thrown into a wood chipper. It would be a massacre!
I figured Obama would cave. He certainly isn’t running to the center and he doesn’t even have a primary challenger to make him run to the left. Maybe he thinks that people on unemployment with higher gas prices are Obama voters.
He is gonna get shellacked. Clueless as a Deer caught in the headlights.
What’s the big deal? Who really cares about this pipeline? It won’t boost the economy at all. In fact, it will probably cost jobs — and increase our dependence on foreign oil. I’m sure Jim will back me up on this one. C’mon, post a link to some bullsh…uh, scholarly source.
What have the Canadians ever done for us?
You caught that one, eh? Tee-hee!
They gave us the Aqueducts Karl!
All right… all right… but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order… what have the Canadians done for us?
Hockey. Karl, they give us hockey. And oil. And Jeopardy and Star Trek.
…and that funny stuff they call Bacon and Maple Syurp and Milk in Bags and the Farm Film Report and John Candy!
They made curling, a game typically played while consuming beer, into an olympic sport.
And the Molsons Beer. Yes, lots of beer.
By sucking up to the environmentalists, Obama just pissed off a bunch of union construction workers and others who hoped to get a job building the pipeline along with the suppliers and support personnel. That was a stunningly stupid thing to do. File this under the “I’m still waiting for evidence that Obama is intelligent” category.
MfK, Liberals think the reason gas doesn’t put out fires is because we didn’t use enough of it.
“and increase our dependence on foreign oil”
don’t drink idiotic
You do know this is just a rumor don’t you?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/18/us-keystone-state-idUSTRE80H1Q320120118
[[[(Reuters) – The State Department has not made a decision on TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline, department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a briefing on Wednesday.]]]
NO decision has been made yet…
Trial balloon to see who squeals the loudest.
Bet the AFLCIO is on the phone to the WH.
Not any more.
Insuficient time and the original report was due at least six months ago, possibly longer….but it is those mean Republicams fault for making the Obamster Shit or Get Off the Pot!
Apparently Matula didn’t read the law anymore than the State Department press secretary. Congress gave the administration 60 days to make a decision. The State Department, by choosing to not issue a permit, has made a decision. The Obama administration has had 3 years to review the permit. Now the State Department is saying both that they are denying the permit because they don’t have enough time to review the permit, and then they are saying TransCanada can always reapply for the permit. The Obama administration doesn’t realize that businesses and jobs can’t just wait around for his 2012 re-election campaign to end, so that he can then consider making tough decisions.
Congress gave the administration a deadline because businesses can’t wait, but also because American taxpayers can’t to continue to pay the salary of State Department officials that refuse to make decisions. The administration needs to do their job or get fired.
Let’s see. Federal law requires projects must go through an environmental review before being approved. But Congress passed a law requiring a decision before the environmental review could be completed. So if President Obama approved it he would just open it up to lawsuits since approving it before the environment review is complete is illegal. So he made a decision to reject it, which is the only decision that is legal under both laws. Sounds like the Republicans didn’t want it approved. And the got their wish.
But as the State Department noted, correctly, it is legal for Keystone to start the process over by reapplying since President Obama satisfied the Congressional requirement to make a decision on the old application. So it looks like what the Republicans House did with their election year game ship was to actually delay it a couple of months. And you wonder why the Republican House has such low approval ratings?
Thomas, what part of ‘they had THREE years to complete the review’ is NOT getting thru your thick skull???
Obama just voted form more comflict oil and more foreign wars.
It’s all the GOPs fault. Never would the left pass some bill in haste. Ya know, before reading it.
Is there any credibility left?
And Obama is a real stickler for the law when delay works in his favor.
Obama bows to the Saudis.
Obama was elected–he won–to build the brave new world desired by the majority of Americans. He was open about his goals: end energy dependence on coal and oil. That won’t happen as long as mines are open, wells are drilled, and oil is refined. Most Americans are neither Republican nor Democrat but Green. If they approve of Obama and he will be re-elected.
Soooooo, what’s it like on your planet?
The problem is that there was not final route to approve. As discussed in this article, the Nebraska legislature and TransCanada were still working out a route for the pipeline to avoid the Sand Hills. I guess those darned Nebraskans don’t want to get oil in their drinking and irrigation water.
Where I grew up, an easement ran through our property and that of all of our neighbors. It allowed Shell Oil access to a major gasoline pipeline buried there. This was out in the boonies, farmland, where everyone got his water from wells. That pipeline (and hundreds like it) has been operating for more than 50 years without incident. Worrying about water contamination in light of the long history of pipeline operations isn’t prudent, it’s paranoid in a clinical sense.
Well, there’s actually a long list of pipeline accidents in the US in recent memory.
Prudent or not, the state legislature had gotten TransCanada to agree in principle to a change. They had not actually agreed on a route for the pipeline.
And how is shipping all that oil across a friggin’ ocean to the Chinese necessarily better for the environment?
Didn’t say it was any better. The statement was worrying about pipelines was “paranoid in a clinical sense.”
Josh,
[[[And how is shipping all that oil across a friggin’ ocean to the Chinese necessarily better for the environment?]]]
Except the indigenous peoples are fighting to block the proposed Pacific pipeline as well. And it will take the Canadians at least two years to go through their OWN approval process 🙂
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/10/us-enbridge-gateway-idUSTRE80926Y20120110
Canadian natives warn against pipeline to Pacific
[[[Aboriginal leaders opposed to a C$5.5 billion ($5.4 billion) oil sands pipeline backed by Canada’s government warned on Tuesday that the project could devastate fishing and traditional life on the rugged Pacific Coast and called for it to be stopped.]]]
[[[The proceedings, expected to last two years, began at the community center in Kitimaat Village on the Pacific Coast’s Douglas Channel, the terminus of the proposed pipeline. Battle lines have already been drawn between supporters on one side and environmental groups and aboriginals in the province of British Columbia on the other.]]]
Fortunately, that will give President Romney a chance to reverse the damage.