He thinks that Bibi Netanyahu is Obama’s Krushchev. Victor Davis Hanson responds to the lunacy.
[Early evening update]
Ed Koch: “The trust is gone.”
But many self-flagellating Jews will continue to worship the false gods of Obama and the Democrats.
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For his birthday, I hear they’ll have Borat come by the White House to sing “Throw the Jew Down the Well.” Shouldn’t be hard to get everybody to sing along.
Wow, talking about low standards. Is the next 4th of July going to be Obama’s Cuban Missile Crisis or his Apollo Program? Maybe both? Some events might have to serve multiple analogue roles, I wouldn’t want to raise anyone’s expectations here.
What head space is Cohen in that he can liken Netanyahu to Krushchev and mean it?
“Wow, talking about low standards. Is the next 4th of July going to be Obama’s Cuban Missile Crisis or his Apollo Program?”
Will it still be a holiday by then?
What head space is Cohen in that he can liken Netanyahu to Krushchev and mean it?
The same one that Obama is. The enemy that needs regime change isn’t Iran on his planet — it’s Israel.
What happened to the “we have no right to interfere in the affairs of other countries” Obama?
The major mistake Jews as a group have done, is putting their trust in anyone but themselves.
I’ve asked a few Jewish friends WHY they trust and vote for Dems.
I got the same answer, even though the folks involved did not know one another. They told me they trust the Dems, the Republicans are too much like the Nazis were.
After my head quit spinning like Michael Keaton’s in Beetle Juice, I asked for proof or at least HOW that was so. All I got was a shrug and something mumbled like, “…you either believe it (see it) or you don’t. I can’t really prove it to someone who’s not a Jew. (or…someone who doesn’t have our history)”
That’s from 4 or 5 different people.
Oddly, I’ve got a friend in NYC who is a very politically Conservative. He says it’s proof of what many say about ALL liberals. Guilt and self-loathing.
He has a brother who won’t speak to him, since he voted for Reagan, and has voted for Republicans since then. His brother hated Obama from the beginning, fully supported Hitlary, but voted Obama anyway. I can’t see it from their stand point, I’ll tell you that.
Is Israeli founding father, Kadima memeber, and current Israeli President Rand, is Shimon Peres a self-flagellating Jew? Is former Mossad agent and current Israeli opposition leader Tzipi Livni a self-flagellating Jew? Is a Jewish American who agrees with the positions of Peres or Livni a self-flagellating Jew?
Being against Likud is not the same as being against Israel. You’re very quick to correct people who can’t tell the difference between the VSE and the ESAS but you don’t seem to distinguish between Likud and Israel.
(Minor philosophical aside: you might try distinguishing between being for Israel and being for the Jews, but that’s just a theoretical issue given that every politician under discussion (including Obama) and nearly every Jewish American (including me) is pro-Israel – just not pro-Likud.)
Obama is for Kadima. Not a big surprise. And by the way, every US administration has interfered in Israeli politics (while denying it) and every Israeli PM has tried to interfere in US politics (while denying it). (Source: Aaron David Miller, who did it on behalf of the US and who watched it done first hand to the US.).
Anyway, Netanyahu can make a choice. If he lurches rightward, this dispute helps him with his base. If he lurches left, this dispute helps him stay in the mainstream. He might be stressed out by the need to decide, but opportunity has knocked.
If you compare someone to the Nazis and you can’t even explain why, you’re bat-whacky insane.
The closest GOP-Nazi parallel I can come up with is that both Hitler and Cheney had a well-publicized undisclosed location.
By the way, for all the theatrics surrounding last week’s visit by the Israelis, while Netanyahu was meeting with Obama, Defense Minister Ehud Barak was meeting with Gates in the Pentagon. When it comes to Israel’s security, the resulting sale of specially modified C-130Js is more significant than Netanyahu’s meeting. For that matter, the impending agreement on F-35s (which will most likely make Israel the first foreign nation to fly the F-35) and the yearly $3 billion in military aid to Israel is more significant as well.
And two polls from Israel describe the mainstream there:
Kadima in first place
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/35310/kadima_takes_first_place_among_israeli_voters
While Obama is doing fine.
” a sweeping majority of Israelis think his treatment of this country is friendly and fair.”
“www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1157483.html” — Note that the translation might be slightly off — fair might be translated as “business-like”, but however you translate it, this is still positive.
Bob, That Haaretz poll was crap. It was debunked in Commentary when it came out. Here’s one for you with quite the opposite results. BTW why aren’t you commenting on the lack of “concessions” by the PA and HAMAS? Oh wait, they’re too busy enjoying the bash Bibi show to be engaged. The difference is what Israel will be if a solution is found. Do you not think Syria and Iran would wipe Israel off the face of the earth if given what they think are the right circumstances? You show it when you use self-flagellating instead of self-immolating. Too many on the left in Israel and here can’t wrap their heads around how much the Arab and Persian world want all jews eliminated.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136664
When it comes to Israel’s security, the resulting sale of specially modified C-130Js is more significant than Netanyahu’s meeting. For that matter, the impending agreement on F-35s (which will most likely make Israel the first foreign nation to fly the F-35) and the yearly $3 billion in military aid to Israel is more significant as well.
Those have nothing to do with Obama. Remember funds are allocated by Congress.
At the moment, Likud is the government of Israel, and Israel is a sovereign country whose populace chose Likud to govern it.
How would you feel, sir, if the Chinese government started agitating against the U.S. Democratic Party?
Admittedly, I’d snicker up my sleeve if that happened, but I’d never argue that China’s stance against our Democratic Party makes them NOT anti-American.
I think a retrospective on what Gerald Ford did in 1975 would be instructive to all. Not long after the Yom Kippur war (which had been the greatest threat to Israel’s existance ever), Ford & Kissinger (a Jew who lost six family members in the Holocaust) wanted to push Israel toward a more complete peace with Egypt. Israel backed away from an agreement citing security concerns. In response, Ford cut off all new arms deal to Israel, at a time when Israel really needed it. The pressure was made explicit. This move was opposed by Congress, who pressured Ford to relent. Pressure or not, it was Ford’s call.
It is also worth considering George H. W. Bush and the loan guarantee squabble. There is a pattern here.
Karl, you do raise a good point. I think everyone posting here is misreading the situation, but I’m pretty ignorant too , and I don’t know exactly how arms sales work. Do you? What exactly are the president’s perogatives?
Obama associates of Edward Said and Rashid Khalidi I think pretty much let us know where this man’s loyalties lie.
Josh, what do you make of Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod? Anything?
Josh, what do you make of Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod? Anything?
We ( or at least I) make of them same thing that we make of you.
Do you have a point?
Josh wants to play the guilt-by-association game, but the two people Obama associates with the most professionally are Emanuel and Axelrod. Both are Zionists. Emanuel’s Zionist credentials, in particular, are unassailable, and Obama made Emanuel his Chief Of Staff, arguably the 2nd most important person – in practice- in the Executive branch. I don’t understand how people can continue to make the argument that Obama is against Jews or Israels without accounting for his relationship with Emanuel and Axelrod.
I don’t know what you make of me. I’ve been offering you a series of coments on Israel based on fact and history, and based on the viewpoints of Aaron David Miller, a right-wing middle east peace negotiator who worked for six secretary of states in democratic and republican administrations. I have not engaged in disrepectful behavior, personal attacks, or trollish behavior. I have made a reading recommendation (“Too Much Promised Land” – you’ll really like it.) You haven’t responded to any of my comments in a substantive way (which is fine, maybe you’re busy, etc), but you have replied with curt put-downs, and then you’ve continued to offer the same unsubstantiated opinions about Obama and his middle east strategy. If you don’t want comments from me, I’ll go away. Do you want a respectful reasoned debate with people who have a different viewpoint from you?
I’ve been offering you a series of coments on Israel based on fact and history, and based on the viewpoints of Aaron David Miller, a right-wing middle east peace negotiator who worked for six secretary of states in democratic and republican administrations.
Again, I say that trolls are people who pretend to be something they are not.
Advice to Bob, you are not Aaron David Miller. You cannot provide his viewpoints, unless you quote them directly. You have not done so. What you have done, assuming you’re not outright lying (which can’t be ruled out either) is presume you know Mr. Miller’s viewpoints and have paraphrased them. In fact, I can see no information from you that I can distinguish as being anything other than your opinion, and not someone elses (as you claim).
You may make idiotic claims, and then suggests those claims are held be right or left wing people. What you always fail to grasp is that most commenters here, and I presume Rand as well, don’t look at ideology characteristics. They actually weight the logic of the claim, and if it fails, it fails. Ideology does not matter. So as you continue your pretense of showing how right wing ideology is sometimes as foolish is left wing ideology; know this: we only think you’re an idiot for continuing to play that game.
Finally, if you think Rahm Emanual and David Axelrod, being Jewish appointments made by Obama means that the President can invite the Israeli Head of State to the White House to be insulted; then you are an idiot. It wasn’t all that long ago that simply insulting a head of state was considered an act of war. Certainly, its reason enough to diminish political ties. When that happens, once former allies will begin to no longer work with you. All Obama did to Britain was give them a collection of his best speeches, and look what happened: Special relationship between UK and US is over
You think leaving Netanyahu at a conference to wait why Obama stuffs his face is going to influence Israel? Again, a hint: it has nothing to do with Obama being a left or right ideologue. I don’t care if Rahm Emanuel is Zionist or not, if he doesn’t understand the ramification of scheduling a meeting with a head of state during Obama’s dinner time, in which the head of state is not invited to dinner; then he’s an asshole at best.