26 thoughts on “O’Keefe Speaks”

  3. Since Chris obviously has made up his mind without a shred of proof, he’s now trying to use guilt by comparison.

  4. Rand – yes I do have a point. People who are accused of crimes or misconduct rarely come out and say “yes, I did it.” Typically, they either deny and/or minimize the accusations.

  5. Of what crime has he been accused? Where is the indictment? Does he have a history of committing crimes, or lying about them? Why are you so unwilling to grant him the benefit of the doubt?

  6. Rand – substitute “Obama” or “ACORN” for “O’Keefe” in your question above and re-read it.

    If you are not willing to extend the courtesy of “benefit of the doubt” to people you disagree with, why should I?

  7. Typically, they either deny and/or minimize the accusations.
    If the media has made innaccurate statements what would you have him do? What in the hell is your problem with that guy? Because he calls himself a journalist? Breitbart has already come out and stated he doesn’t agree wth that. If that’s your beef then farking say so. Do you believe ACORN should not be exposed to Michael Moore style “journalism”? Are you related to Mary Landreu? What? WHAT?

  8. Rand – substitute “Obama” or “ACORN” for “O’Keefe” in your question above and re-read it.

    OK, I did that. Now what?

    If you are not willing to extend the courtesy of “benefit of the doubt” to people you disagree with, why should I?

    I’m failing to see the analogy here. And in fact ACORN does have a history of criminality and lying. O’Keefe’s biggest crime was exposing that, apparently.

  9. Curt Thompson – this really has nothing to do with ACORN. O’Keefe and company are potentially facing Federal charges. Like anybody accused of misconduct, they are arguing that they did nothing wrong. Just because they say “we did nothing wrong” doesn’t mean we should believe them.

  10. …this really has nothing to do with ACORN.

    Really? Then why did you ask me to insert them in my statement?

    Just because they say “we did nothing wrong” doesn’t mean we should believe them.

    Not does it mean we shouldn’t. And you know, there is that pesky presumption-of-innocence thing, particularly since they haven’t even been indicted of anything. But apparently, you think that only applies to people you agree with.

  11. Rand – your inability to look yourself in the mirror is not my problem.

    Actually, ACORN is not the problem either, except in your own mind. The problem is O’Keefe is in danger of criminal charges, and like anybody else in his shoes, he’s trying to minimize his actions. I have no reason to believe him.

  12. Actually, ACORN is not the problem either, except in your own mind.

    Again, you’re the one who brought up ACORN, not me.

    You’re beclowning yourself (again), Chris.

  14. Rand – wrong again. O’Keefe brought up ACORN

    Not here. You did.

    And I repeat, ACORN does have a history of criminality and lying, so I’m still failing to see your analogy to O’Keefe.

  15. Actually, ACORN is not the problem either, except in your own mind.
    O’Keefe brought up ACORN – hell, the Big Hollywood post is meta-tagged “ACORN.” O’Keefe in his statement says As an investigative journalist, my goal is …ACORN..

    I’ve got it! O’Keefe stole your Tonka truck when you were 5, and it was full of acorns!

  17. Rand – I tried to make a very simple point. There is no reason to give O’Keefe any more benefit of the doubt than anybody else in trouble with the law. Especially not just because he said something self-serving. You have repeatedly been unwilling to extend that benefit of the doubt to anybody you disagree with.

    The only relevance ACORN has to this is:

    1) O’Keefe in his statement is attempting to link his actions at ACORN to his actions in New Orleans
    2) The only reason you have even heard of him or are defending him is because of his actions at ACORN.

    Whether AORN is really Satan’s tool or not is irrelevant. O’Keefe could be completely right about ACORN and still have attempted felony wiretapping.

    Since this is about the point you’ll accuse me of inability to read English, uttering non sequiturs, or “beclowning myself,” (Oh, you already did that – gotta keep up) I’ll let you have the last word.

  18. You have repeatedly been unwilling to extend that benefit of the doubt to anybody you disagree with.

    Really? Can you provide some examples? I would only have to come up with a single counterexample.

    My willingness or lack thereof to grant someone the benefit of the doubt is independent of whether or not I “agree” with them. But I’m sure you’ll continue to delude yourself, without substantiating this.

  19. Heh. I predict many bitter clingers to hope that trumped-up federal charges against a highly effective ideological opponent might yet stick, despite growing evidence there’s no there there. Meanwhile, O’Keefe & co are getting priceless free publicity for this latest investigation. You go, CG! Toss ’em in that briar patch again! Harder!

    cynically

    Porkypine

  20. James O’Keefe gives me hope. The way the media reported the incident he looked guilty as sin. His response makes sense. I look forward to seeing how this develops.

    Chris must believe MSNBC is totally objective.

  21. No worries. If he did commit a crime, Holder will look the other way…

    You can ask the Philly New Black Panthers or Bill Richardson how that works.

    On the other hand, he might throw the book at O’Keefe – whatever he might be charged with here is likely to be much worse than alleged voter intimidation or alleged pay-to-play deals.

    ‘Democrats – only our tactics are transparent!’

  23. 2) The only reason you have even heard of him or are defending him is because of his actions at ACORN.

    And the reason you have an interest in his case is…?

  24. Meanwhile, O’Keefe & co are getting priceless free publicity for this latest investigation.

    Likely it’s the first time anyone’s heard of him, at least through the MSM.

  26. Chris, O’Keefe claims he will release the tapes of his activities. That should settle any uncertainty here.

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