“Elite” Higher Education

Is the jig (finally) up?

Let’s hope so. It’s done immeasurable damage to the Republic.

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9 thoughts on ““Elite” Higher Education”

  1. Require all colleges make their own loans to students and if a former student fails to graduate or defaults on a loan, make the college responsible for repaying any grants the student received.

    That would create market clarity and incentives for colleges to produce good students and not take advantage of students. Government could still help but it puts the responsibility on colleges to do their due diligence.

  2. Let’s hope so. It’s done immeasurable damage to the Republic.

    Suppose you right after all Trump, Elon, Eastman, Alito and his friends, Leo, Vance, Canon, Hegseth, RFK and Stephen Miller are all products of “elite” universities .

    And yes the school that touts itself as the “Harvard of the south” is Elite.

    1. What’s your point?

      A lesson in logic (for someone who has been long known to be deficient in it):

      a) Elite universities have been a disaster for the Republic.
      b) Elite universities occasionally produce useful people.

      There is no logical inconsistency between those two statements.

      1. Guess a stopped clock like you can be correct twice a day. Even if not for reasons you think.

        You lot are misidentifying the problem. The proposed solution you endorse From VDH or Wodun’s wouldn’t solve the problem.

        1. Oh, my solution would solve the problem. It places market signals closest to the producer. When an institution is directly responsible for their output, they will ensure their output has at least break even value.

          Admittedly, this would be more beneficial to less prestigious schools because there is a massive wealth sink for the most expensive schools. Most of the students come from rich families and their graduates benefit from networking with other established rich families. But for the vast majority of people my solution would be great.

          1. I’d go with your market signals and raise you letting companies test for ability. Government backing loans is one of the hearts of the problem. Another is that there are ways to get the knowledge now that didn’t exist centuries ago. If starting a rocket company today, I would prefer alumni of Armadillo, XCOR, Masten, and SpaceX over anything ivy league. Hands on work plus self directed study with mentors in the field is the way of the future for many fields.

  3. Marc Andreessen also notes why school choice is problematic, the accreditors who control public schools also control private schools.

    A private school may do some things better but when you state mandates you have to let boys in the girls room or include Progressive Marxist curriculum, the only option is choose to be less good at doing those things than a public school but not not do them.

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