I don’t think that they comprehend the political blowback that this will create.
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Producers confirm that Liz Cheney will not be back for Season 2 of the January 6th hearings.
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They will try to avoid an actual trial and get Trump to plea bargain plead guilty to some kind of felony to make him 14th Amendment ineligible to run in ’24. How much “political blowback” there is depends on whether we get a fair election in November; not too late for dems to pull some kind of mass unsolicited mail in ballot/ballot box sort of shenanigans.
Tim, what in the 14th makes one ineligible?
“Tim, what in the 14th makes one ineligible?”
Section 3; remember the Jan 6th hearings are calling it an “insurrection”. That’s what they would argue to make Trump ineligible to run. Believe there are also other statutes related to being convicted of a felony that might be used to make him unable to run (or at least appear on a States’ ballot effectively banning him from running).
“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
https://constitutionallawreporter.com/amendment-14-03/#:~:text=Another%20section%20dealing%20directly%20with,from%20serving%20in%20the%20government.
That’s been discussed in depth since the day of the “insurrection.” Since Congress passed a law eliminating any penalty for persons who took part in the Confederate side of the Civil War, the consensus seems to be that the insurrection exclusion is no longer available.
Furthermore, it’s been argued that the presidency is not “an office … under the United States” because, elsewhere, the Constitution clearly distinguishes the presidency from such offices. If the language in the 14th were meant to be construed differently, it would have made clear that it is to be construed differently.
” or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”
How are Democrats allowed to participate in our system then?
After the Civil War, numerous Confederate officers served as Federal officials, including 3 appointed justices of the United States Supreme Court. Maybe the trick is, you have to have taken a Federal oath before insurrectionizing? But quite a few Confederates were in the US Army before 1861. I’m too lazy to look it all up, but it seems like a pretty porous filter.
Maybe the trick is, you have to have taken a Federal oath before insurrectionizing?
I think you meant after. I believe in this situation you had to take a loyalty oath to the United States Constitution, after having been a Confederate, before being an eligible citizen again. I suppose no different than becoming a naturalized citizen.
Democrats are counting on the blowback.
Blowback?
The story I hear is that Mr. DeSantis’ presidential aspirations have had the oxygen sucked out by the raid.
Judging from news accounts, the Florida Governor is anxious to be indicted for something.
Judging from news accounts, the Florida Governor is anxious to be indicted for something.
Impersonating a ham sandwich?
I think the reason why they (the dems) like that 14th Amendment clause is because it wouldn’t necessarily require Trump to be convicted of “insurrection”. Any state controlled by the democrats could simply refuse to put him on that state’s ballot by arguing that he is guilty (in their view) of insurrection even if never charged/tried/convicted of such. They would say he is “morally guilty” (if not legally guilty) of insurrection. Use that argument to keep him of the states’ ballot with the idea if enough states do so it might be mathematically impossible for Trump to get to the majority 270 electoral votes in ’24.
Republicans could do the same thing to any Democrat who has called for revolution, worked with Progressive Marxist groups, or aided our country’s enemies. There isn’t a Democrat alive who would be on a ballot.
What Republicans “could” do and what they will do are two entirely different things, they not having the testicular fortitude to do what they could/should.
They will repeal Obamacare as soon as they retake congress again.
“They will repeal Obamacare as soon as they retake congress again.”
Like they did when Trump was President? They (the Republicans) had control of Congress the first 2 years of Trump’s term they did nothing of the sort.
/whoosh
That was McCain’s fault, and he was no Republican and Conservative.
Last ditch move before DS heads off for a long vacation in Gitmo.
I find that climate way too hot and muggy to be enjoyable this time of year…. Oh, wait, do you mean another DS?
Is that you, Liz?
I’m going to wait and see. If there’s actual evidence, it’ll come out.
I believe season 2 is going to be cancelled in November.
“I believe season 2 is going to be cancelled in November.”
Even accepting that the the dems (barring cheating) will lose almost certainly the House (maybe/maybe not the Senate) that wouldn’t stop Garland from issuing an indictment. Even if it required Congressional approval (it doesn’t) they dems could lame duck session it; the new Congress wouldn’t be seated until sometime in January.