Probably. They certainly had no lack of motivation (or immorality) to do so.
6 thoughts on “The Election”
If they didn’t actually steal it, it wasn’t for lack of trying. It is unbelievable to me how obvious and open the attempt was and how the judiciary openly abetted it.
LOL what do you mean probably? It was 100% stolen via fraud. Easy one to get correct; I’d expect Rand and Transterrestrial Musings to get it right!
“Those dumps may have made the difference in the election. ”
Democrats use carefully crafted deceits. They foreshadowed their big fraud in the weeks leading up to the election with a coordinated PR campaign to lay the foundation for their story. They incepted the idea of a Red Mirrage, that Trump would appear to be winning when everyone went to bed but late night vote dumps would go to Biden, into the media and people’s consciousness at at time there contentiousness over election results.
The basis for the Red Mirrage was the claim Republicans don’t vote by mail and because Trump assaulted the USPS, votes would be slow to come in and likely wouldn’t be counted until the middle of the night. This conditioned people, especially media, to expect large Vote dumps in the middle of the night that would all go for Biden.
I live in a state where people either vote by mail or use drop boxes. We don’t have late night vote dumps. Sometimes we have boxes of ballots discovered weeks after an election on the third recount to elect a Democrat, but not hundreds of thousands of late night vote dumps.
Republicans do vote by mail, if that is the system in place. Given the choice between in person and vote by mail, people will do whatever is most convenient. The basis for the Red Mirrage isn’t logical.
Like the article said, Democrats litigated to lower election integrity. They also implanted a narrative into the media to give an explanation other than fraud for what would happen. The election fraud likely wasn’t one specific type of fraud but a bunch of types where any one wouldn’t be enough to swing the election but also not big enough that if they were caught would invalidate the election.
Consider that:
* Bill Barr, Trump’s own very loyal attorney general, has stated there was no significant election fraud.
* Sixty-plus law suits filed by the Trump campaign were dismissed for lack of evidence or lack of standing.
* Many of the dozens of legal defeats were handed down by Republican-appointed judges. One particularly scathing dismissal was offered by a judge who, though appointed by Obama, was on the Federalists’ list.
* Two of the law suits have been defeated in the Supreme Court, which has a solid conservative majority and includes three judges appointed by Trump himself.
* The Trump campaign waited until the election to file suits, despite the fact that some of its objections pertained to rules that had been set well before the election. If the suits were actually had merit and were not just about publicity, they would have been filed earlier.
* Trump chose Rudy Giuliani to lead legal challenges to the election. If all publicity is good publicity, Rudy is great, but if you actually had a legal case to make, why in hell would you choose him to make it? He’s become a walking, talking punchline. I mean, a press conference at the Four Seasons Garden Center? Really??
* The Trump campaign raised over $200 million ostensibly to fight the election results but actually spent much less. It really looks like another of Trump’s money-making schemes rather than a serious legal fight.
* Even Ted Cruz, when rising to challenge Arizona’s electoral votes in the Senate, did not claim election fraud: he merely pointed out that there was widespread belief in fraud.
* To take Georgia as an example, where all eight state-wide office holders from the governor on down are Republicans, the governor, secretary of state, have, after two recounts, unequivocally stated that there was no fraud.
* When Trump phoned Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger (who says he voted for Trump), in an effort to “find” 11,000 votes, he mentioned rumors and things he’d heard but offered no actual evidence of voter fraud.
With all of that, how can anybody take the claims of widespread election fraud seriously?
No one is claiming “widespread” fraud. That’s a strawman to deflect from the actual claim, which is that there was sufficient fraud in a few large cities in swing states that was enough to change the election. Barr didn’t say there was no fraud; he said that he had seen no evidence of it (because there was no DOJ investigation of it). None of those court cases that were thrown out even got to discovery, and they were mostly tossed for process reasons, and evidence wasn’t even examined.
In Georgia along, Trump needed Raffensperger to “find” over 11,000 votes, and he needed to flip results in multiple states. That seems pretty widespread to me.
No need to split hairs on Barr’s statements. He was obviously a Trump supporter, hand-picked. If he didn’t launch an investigation, it’s overwhelmingly likely because he saw no grounds to.
Bottom line, there is no evidence of significant election fraud. The whole meme that the election was stolen is as baseless as the birther meme. Why do you give oxygen to this stuff?
If they didn’t actually steal it, it wasn’t for lack of trying. It is unbelievable to me how obvious and open the attempt was and how the judiciary openly abetted it.
LOL what do you mean probably? It was 100% stolen via fraud. Easy one to get correct; I’d expect Rand and Transterrestrial Musings to get it right!
“Those dumps may have made the difference in the election. ”
Democrats use carefully crafted deceits. They foreshadowed their big fraud in the weeks leading up to the election with a coordinated PR campaign to lay the foundation for their story. They incepted the idea of a Red Mirrage, that Trump would appear to be winning when everyone went to bed but late night vote dumps would go to Biden, into the media and people’s consciousness at at time there contentiousness over election results.
The basis for the Red Mirrage was the claim Republicans don’t vote by mail and because Trump assaulted the USPS, votes would be slow to come in and likely wouldn’t be counted until the middle of the night. This conditioned people, especially media, to expect large Vote dumps in the middle of the night that would all go for Biden.
I live in a state where people either vote by mail or use drop boxes. We don’t have late night vote dumps. Sometimes we have boxes of ballots discovered weeks after an election on the third recount to elect a Democrat, but not hundreds of thousands of late night vote dumps.
Republicans do vote by mail, if that is the system in place. Given the choice between in person and vote by mail, people will do whatever is most convenient. The basis for the Red Mirrage isn’t logical.
Like the article said, Democrats litigated to lower election integrity. They also implanted a narrative into the media to give an explanation other than fraud for what would happen. The election fraud likely wasn’t one specific type of fraud but a bunch of types where any one wouldn’t be enough to swing the election but also not big enough that if they were caught would invalidate the election.
Consider that:
* Bill Barr, Trump’s own very loyal attorney general, has stated there was no significant election fraud.
* Sixty-plus law suits filed by the Trump campaign were dismissed for lack of evidence or lack of standing.
* Many of the dozens of legal defeats were handed down by Republican-appointed judges. One particularly scathing dismissal was offered by a judge who, though appointed by Obama, was on the Federalists’ list.
* Two of the law suits have been defeated in the Supreme Court, which has a solid conservative majority and includes three judges appointed by Trump himself.
* The Trump campaign waited until the election to file suits, despite the fact that some of its objections pertained to rules that had been set well before the election. If the suits were actually had merit and were not just about publicity, they would have been filed earlier.
* Trump chose Rudy Giuliani to lead legal challenges to the election. If all publicity is good publicity, Rudy is great, but if you actually had a legal case to make, why in hell would you choose him to make it? He’s become a walking, talking punchline. I mean, a press conference at the Four Seasons Garden Center? Really??
* The Trump campaign raised over $200 million ostensibly to fight the election results but actually spent much less. It really looks like another of Trump’s money-making schemes rather than a serious legal fight.
* Even Ted Cruz, when rising to challenge Arizona’s electoral votes in the Senate, did not claim election fraud: he merely pointed out that there was widespread belief in fraud.
* To take Georgia as an example, where all eight state-wide office holders from the governor on down are Republicans, the governor, secretary of state, have, after two recounts, unequivocally stated that there was no fraud.
* When Trump phoned Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger (who says he voted for Trump), in an effort to “find” 11,000 votes, he mentioned rumors and things he’d heard but offered no actual evidence of voter fraud.
With all of that, how can anybody take the claims of widespread election fraud seriously?
No one is claiming “widespread” fraud. That’s a strawman to deflect from the actual claim, which is that there was sufficient fraud in a few large cities in swing states that was enough to change the election. Barr didn’t say there was no fraud; he said that he had seen no evidence of it (because there was no DOJ investigation of it). None of those court cases that were thrown out even got to discovery, and they were mostly tossed for process reasons, and evidence wasn’t even examined.
In Georgia along, Trump needed Raffensperger to “find” over 11,000 votes, and he needed to flip results in multiple states. That seems pretty widespread to me.
No need to split hairs on Barr’s statements. He was obviously a Trump supporter, hand-picked. If he didn’t launch an investigation, it’s overwhelmingly likely because he saw no grounds to.
Bottom line, there is no evidence of significant election fraud. The whole meme that the election was stolen is as baseless as the birther meme. Why do you give oxygen to this stuff?