47 thoughts on “RBG”

  2. Already the RINOs have come out saying they’ll vote with the Democrats to delay any nomination until after the election. The poor woman hasn’t been laid to rest, and they are already making this about them.

    1. Uh Huh they were saying it while the body was still producing heat and they are also respecting her wish within reason.
      While people are on Tucker wanting to “Seize the moment” overturn Roe vs Wade, I’m sure in her honor.

        1. Honor, schmonor. “No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States”

          Wasn’t using it as a honorific , and btw a honorific is different than a title of Nobility otherwise maybe you should direct your tut tuting here.

          FYI her honorific is “Justice” and it not passed to her children.

      2. “Uh Huh they were saying it while the body was still producing heat and they are also respecting her wish within reason.”
        From your link:

        “McConnell needs just 50 votes to confirm a Trump nominee this year, with Vice President Mike Pence acting as a tie-breaker. He has a 53 seat majority in the Senate, but a few of his Republican colleagues are on the record as opposing the nomination of a judge during an election year.

        Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski said Friday, before news of Ginsburg’s passing was announced, that she would not vote to replace Ginsburg before the election.

        “When Republicans held off Merrick Garland it was because nine months prior to the election was too close, we needed to let people decide. And I agreed to do that. If we now say that months prior to the election is OK when nine months was not, that is a double standard and I don’t believe we should do it,” Murkowski explained last month. “So I would not support it.”

        Sen. Chuck Grassley, the former Judiciary Committee chairman, has previously expressed the same reservation.

        Earlier this month, Sen. Susan Collins told the New York Times she thought October was too close to the election to vote on a replacement for Ginsburg.

        “I think that’s too close, I really do,” she said.

        Sen. Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in 2018 “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”

        So three possibly four Republican defections; you may be right about a vote not happening. Lindsey Graham is again showing that he has feet of clay; will cave if the pressure gets to high. Guess he used up all his guts fighting for Brett Cavanaugh.

        1. Tim I fully expect the gutless Republicans to hold till after election then install who ever during the lame duck session.
          Romney and Murkowski would not go along but the others like Lindsey is truly spineless and no doubt renege on his earlier words..

          Too bad any rationality is long gone or compromises in a rational world the Republican if they lose the election would try to compromise. But at this point if the democrats reclaim the senate and the presidency they will pack the court no matter what. Though what the phrase “Elections matter”. Sigh

          2. If they pack the court, it’s a civil war.

            Sounds about right the south loses a election and then they cry foul and secede, hopefully this time we do a better job of rebuilding.

          3. I doubt this one last nearly as long although I am sure it will be costly.

            The Democrats have a lot fewer of the guns this tine. You would have thought they would have learned their lessons last time about starting and losing a civil war but apparently no…

          4. Takes more than # of guns to win a war. The south will lose again to the more industrious/technology advanced side again.

          5. If you think this is south verses north, you have already lost.

            Let me know how that superior technology digests while you are starving in the dark without power, utilities and food.

          6. @Engineer

            Trump’s replacement for RBG, if chosen right, should allow the Trump Supreme Court to declare Democrat ballots fraudulent. Then afterwards, Trump can pack the Supreme Court with 200 more justices.

    2. “Already the RINOs have come out saying they’ll vote with the Democrats to delay any nomination until after the election.”

      The vote would obviously pass the House but I think it unlikely to get a Veto proof majority in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has said he would vote on a nomination to SCOTUS this year if one opened up. RBG death was hardly unanticipated; maybe not quite so soon but they have been lying to us about the state of her health. Or at least the extent of her ill health.

      1. “The vote would obviously pass the House but I think it unlikely to get a Veto proof majority in the Senate.”

        My mistake; thought you meant a law forbidding a vote. The Senate could just presumably vote to not have a vote on said SCOTUS nominee.

    1. During the welcoming ceremonies, Satan realized that Hillary! Clinton could be joining them next. And once she gets there, she’ll be spending eternity angling for His job.

      1. With her outgoing “installed” comment about “her” seat, which pretty much encapsulates her actions of the last three years, she no longer deserves that benefit. By desperately hanging on, she’s singlehandedly caused perhaps insurmountable problems for his country.

  7. “Trump is all but certain to nominate Amy Coney Barrett, an extremely conservative judge he put on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, as her replacement. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell—who held Scalia’s seat open for more than a year—has already said he would fill a vacant seat this year. Barrett’s confirmation would create a 6–3 conservative supermajority. Ideologically, Justice Brett Kavanaugh would sit at the center of the court. Chief Justice John Roberts might occasionally join the remaining liberals, as he did last term, but his defections would not change the outcome of any case.”

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-at-87.html

  8. I think there are legitimate arguments for and against trying to confirm a replacement before the election. But what really chaps my ass is this is direct confirmation that RBG lied to the American public over at least the last several months about her health situation – clearly, her cancer was taking over, she knew it, and she should have resigned as soon as the term was over so that the political process could have played out without quite so much time pressure. Now…her supremely (pun intended) selfish actions have drastically increased the political turmoil. May she burn in hell (not that I believe in hell, or heaven, but whatever).

    1. Someone noted that before she died, she dictated a statement saying “My most fervent with is that I not be replaced until a new president is installed.” She politicized her own death, and would prefer we suffer through with a ruthless Supreme Court.

      2. We don’t install Presidents. We elect them. And the key word is “we” as in the people. She did not get a title she gets to control even after death.

    2. But what really chaps my ass is this is direct confirmation that RBG lied to the American public over at least the last several months about her health situation – clearly, her cancer was taking over, she knew it, and she should have resigned as soon as the term was over so that the political process could have played out without quite so much time pressure.

      Clearly, Ginsburg disagreed. And I can understand wanting to wait past the election, likely in the hope that Trump doesn’t get reelected. Selfish or not, it’s far from the dumbest thing happening this election cycle.

      1. She has diabetes, and I’ve heard that she also has a distinctly entitled attitude toward it; “Medical protocols are for the little people.”

        1. Is this diabetes crippling? Enough to cause her to retire?

          Will the RBG example of hanging on to the very end keep her from retiring?

          1. Gregg asked:

            “Is this diabetes crippling? Enough to cause her to retire?”

            Type 1 Diabetic here…..

            It isn’t usually the diabetes that kills most diabetics, but the secondary symptoms that come from letting the Blood sugar float high, in order to not have it go low without warning, causing obvious and embarrassing mental dullness, at some critical moment, like at a full supreme court hearing that drags on for hours.

            Then, there’s the long hours that most USSC justices end up working, where an opinion typed out on one’s computer, when you haven’t noticed your blood sugar is half the bottom of the normal range (80-120) is really embarrassing (yeah, I’ve done that with a few comments). All these tend to push diabetics to “float high”, which leads to intense “Glycosylation” of the body’s proteins, in which other things stop working, like your kidneys or your heart.

            Avoiding both highs and lows requires being rigidly regular in one’s routine to manage the blood sugar, and many in high profile jobs people often just don’t, because it disrupts social activities, which are always a large part of any high profile public service job.

  10. McConnell: Trump’s Supreme Court nominee ‘will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate’

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said unequivocally Friday night that President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee to fill the vacancy of late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg “will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

    Ginsburg, 87, died Friday from complications surrounding metastatic pancreas cancer.

    “The Senate and the nation mourn the sudden passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the conclusion of her extraordinary American life,” McConnell said in a statement Friday.

    “In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia’s death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president’s second term. We kept our promise,” McConnell continued. “Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president’s Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year.”
    McConnell added that “by contrast, Americans reelected our majority in 2016 and expanded it in 2018 because we pledged to work with President Trump and support his agenda, particularly his outstanding appointments to the federal judiciary.”
    “Once again, we will keep our promise,” he said. “President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-supreme-court-nominee-vote-floor

  11. “McConnell: I will fill Ginsburg’s seat with Trump’s nominee. Schumer says don’t dare.”

    “Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., said on Twitter that if McConnell does, in fact, hold a confirmation vote, then if Democrats win control of the Senate in November, they should abolish the filibuster and add seats to the Supreme Court so it would have more than nine justices. They would only do this, however, if former Vice President Joe Biden defeats Trump.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/schumer-senate-must-not-fill-ginsburg-vacancy-until-we-have-n1240505

    1. That makes sense because the Democrats keep telling us how important our institutions are and how bad it is the Trump is ruining them.

  12. The confirmation process is usually several months long – longer these days because of Democrats genning up lies for character assassination.

    But I look at McConnell’s words carefully – I don’t see him saying WHEN the Senate floor vote will be taken

  13. An Althouse has an interesting take:

    If it was OK for Obama to nominate Merrick Garland close to the end of his term, why is it not of for Trump to nominate someone close to the end of HIS term? If you say it was ok for Obama to do it then you must agree that it’s ok for Trump do do the same.

    Another author (I forget who) pointed out that the situations are not the same:

    Obama was at the end of his second terms o there WOULD be a new President. This time around their MAY be another President.

    Lastly, there’s no percentage in the GOP being collegial about this. The Democrats already swim in the gutter and have shown that they have zero – collegiality – collegiality will not be reciprocated.

    The Dems play no-holds-barred politics so we must do the same.

    1. “The Dems play no-holds-barred politics so we must do the same.”

      Agreed. Tell that to Sen. Lindsey Graham. He seems to think he is some kind of effete drawing room sort of aristocratic Southern male Gentleman who doesn’t want to get his manicured hands dirty with the odious realities of politics.

  14. Should pick Candace Owens for supreme court justice.

    Only problem, doubt she on Trump’s list, and don’t know if she want the job {she should want the job- but could be quite an disruptive factor in her life}.

  15. “Trump says his Supreme Court nominee will most likely be a woman that he names next week.”

    “President Donald Trump said Saturday evening that he thinks he’ll make his choice to fill the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Supreme Court seat next week and will “most likely” choose a woman.

    “If somebody were to ask me now, I would say that a woman would be in first place,” he said to reporters. “The choice of a woman would certainly be appropriate.”

    The President said there about 45 people on his list, but he does have a “short list” for potential nominees.
    A source told CNN that Trump specifically has said he would “love to pick” federal appeals Judge Amy Coney Barrett, who is a favorite among religious conservatives, but doubts he’ll secure support from the US Senate. Barrett is among Trump’s list of 20 potential conservative nominees he released earlier this month in an attempt to galvanize his base”

    https://krdo.com/politics/2020/09/19/trump-to-gop-we-are-obligated-to-fill-ginsburgs-vacant-supreme-court-seat-without-delay/

    Then the ball will be in Mitch McConnell’s court; hope he can bring it over the finish line.

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