If California seceded, we’d be out of here before they have time to build the wall to keep us in. Absent the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, it would quickly become a totalitarian state.
[Update a while later]
Our dress rehearsal for a police state.
If California seceded, we’d be out of here before they have time to build the wall to keep us in.
What’s keeping you there now?
Nostalgia, inertia, it hasn’t gotten bad enough quite yet. It is still the U.S., for now.
Well, except for that pesky Second Amendment….for a start
I partially exited in 2000 – still worked there, but lived in Az…
Fully disengaged in 2005.
My daughter still lives there, and my extended family…I can’t do much about the family, but my daughter (a surgeon) is ready to leave..
One thing, if anyone is thinking of getting out, do it…once the politburo decides to declare, there will be no selling property…
So I reveal myself to be a unionist, albeit one who wants to see a smaller federal government and a devolution of power to state governments.
“Smaller” should apply to the state governments, too. We need more Wyomings and Utahs and Alabamas and Maines. There’s no reason for super-states like California, Florida, New York and Texas. They are what need to be broken up, the the Federal union.
We need some changes to the Constitution…no state with more than 8 million inhabitants, and one congressperson for every 35,000 citizens…
And yes, there is a difference between inhabitant and citizen.
The City of New York is larger than 38 states. Los Angeles county is larger than 43 states. That is too concentrated electoral and legislative power.
“Not the Federal union”– D’Oh!
There are too many states where one urban accumulation, with politics at odds with the rest of the state, dominates because they have a majority, and can disenfranchise everyone else.
I live in one of those (Colorado). Denver and Boulder like to pretend they are part of the Rockies, but in reality they are located in Far West Kansas. What matters here has little to no relationship to what matters in Rifle, or Grand Jct, or Durango or for that matter, Limon and Greeley.
“Reynolds v. Sims” is a large part in how we got here, and is one of those Supreme Court rulings that should rank down there with Plessy, Dred Scott and Korematsu.
If California seceded Trump would channel Abraham Lincoln.
If commifornia leaves the Union, the rural counties need to pull a West Virginia. Then when things degenerate into a shooting war we cut electricity and water at the border.
But is that true? The problem with analyses like that is that just because money is spent in a given region doesn’t mean that it’s paid to entities from that region. For example, if you’re paying for high tech or aerospace infrastructure, no matter where, it’s going to involve a lot of California-based business. Similarly, anything involving finance or banking will probably disproportionately involve New York City.
Public pensions and state-run medical insurance/care would be a natural transfer from states with high proportions of young workers to states with high proportions of recipients.
California might still show a net loss on the balance sheet, but I think at worst it’ll be significantly smaller than the $100 billion claimed above.
I doubt that all the subsidies the US Government provides are calculated in there, nor are general benefits like national defense…