Nearly everyone put on them in New York died.
So much for “life saving.” Of course, the problem is that by the time it’s so extreme that they decide to put you on one, it’s probably too late. But this shows that the ventilator panic was probably pointless.
We’re learning rapidly how to deal with this, but we’ve unfortunately lost a lot of unwilling guinea pigs. It reminds me of what I say in the book: Every aviation regulation is written in blood. People always have to die or be injured for us to learn.
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I think the ventilator panic was the major driver in the concern about overwhelming hospitals, which led to the perceived need to shutdown. Combined with the now clear evidence that we are not Italy in terms of health system capacity and quality, this already looks like a major catastrophic overreaction. I predict that 5 to 10 years from now this will be conventional wisdom. Maybe as soon as mid-November . . .
Also note that they repeat the misleading obesity and hypertension morbidity claims – while the doctor they quote does not, and only speaks to diabetes.
Oops, posted response / question to you too far below.
Sorry, not going to give the Collusion News Network the clicks. Not worth my time to read more lies.
This has been known for some time. Someone (I think the Lancet?) published a study a month or so back showing around 90% of those put on ventilators in China died. At least in the subset of patients there were able to get data for.
Pretty much the whole ventilator craze happened after that study was published.
To be fair, if we are going to spend $2T to save 100,000 people it makes sense to spend a few billion to save 5,000. And 5,000 have been saved so far by ventilators, presumably.
If we had asked those at risk of dying “would you rather have a 50% chance of not dying, or would you rather give your children $20M?” – I wonder how many would have said “Keep me alive”?
Those are the numbers we are talking about. Crazy, innumerate, people.
I’m going to disagree about the aviation regulations. SOME are written in blood (red regulations) and some are just shit (brown regulations). Make enough brown ones and it gets difficult to figure out which ones matter, especially for newbies. I’ve seen people nearly kill themselves trying to fly a proper, regulation pattern in gliders when a modified pattern or straight in was a much better choice. Remember there is no go round in a glider.
I don’t follow you, David.
The article states, “The records support what doctors have been saying about the coronavirus: most people who become severely ill have some sort of so-called underlying condition. More than half, or 57%, had high blood pressure, 41% were obese and 34% had diabetes.”
And yes, they only quote the doctor with regard to diabetes, but the study, linked at the top to the article, jumps right into it stating, “Key Points: Findings: In this case series that included 5700 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in the New York City area, the most common comorbidities were hypertension, obesity, and diabetes. The percentages are given shortly below that in “Results” (though the article should have rounded the 41.7% incidence of obesity up to 42%, not down to 41%).
And would you please explain what you mean by the, “misleading obesity and hypertension morbidity claims“. I know about https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-conoravirus-blood-pressure-ins/blood-pressure-drugs-are-in-the-crosshairs-of-covid-19-research-idUSKCN2251GQ but I sense you are addressing something else.