12 thoughts on “The Democrats’ Coronovirus Extortion Gambit”
Those who wanted the Green New Deal I’m sure are disappointed by the outcome and will press hard this November to see the country adopt their agenda.
But am curious about who will be the head of the Dem ticket. Will it be sock-puppet QPJ or Cuomo? I’m feeling a draft, better check the door…
It’s going to get interesting. The virus has pushed back many Dem primaries. Unclear if they are also pushing back the convention. It might be possible the virus stalls the QPJ campaign just enough to get a real “draft” Cuomo underway with enough primaries in play to get to a contested convention if Bernie will endorse Cuomo…. Hmmm. The fun has only begun. How much does it cost to buy a Democratic party super delegate seat at the convention? Anyone know?
Superdelegates are mostly officeholders so I guess the cost of such a convention seat is whatever it cost to finagle one’s way into office in the first place.
Two days ago Cuomo was a very viable alternative to Biden. Yesterday he made enemies of every non-New Yorker in the Northeast by threatening action up to and including civil war to make sure that rich entitled New Yorkers are allowed to spread plague and death to all the other elite Democrat utopias in the region. He won’t recover from that.
We’re wired for a xenophobia regarding pandemic diseases, where the only way your healthy tribe will get infected is if outsiders carry it in. On a psychological level, Cuomo sided with the outsiders as a hostile invading force, similar to the threats from Chinese officials to spread corona virus throughout the West. People don’t process that well, as if it’s a burglar or other ne’er-do-well was propounding their right to invade your home and hurt your family. All trust goes out the window and they get put down on everyone’s enemies list.
I’m sure Cuomo pleased many thousands of rich New Yorkers looking to bolt, but he enraged tens of millions of non-New Yorkers who mostly tolerate rich New Yorkers because they have money. Those divisions, and distrust and suspicions, will remain long after the epidemic has passed, but since people don’t want to think ill of New Yorkers they like, their instinctual protective ire will focus on Cuomo.
I suspect that is why Trump made his statement. I doubt Trump would really force a quarantine like suggested, unless he is getting bad advice (and he is). Politically it is foolish, but it would take some pressure off a few governors. However, the governors are the ones facing this challenge, and Trump can easily be above it. After all, the Commerce Clause is in Article I and then there is the Tenth Amendment.
“New York is further ahead on the path that the whole country is on,” said Jeremy Konyndyk, a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development and former Obama-era foreign aid official. “What we don’t need is inconsistent social distancing and quarantining policies that are driven by presidential tweet.”
It is one thing to disagree and even disagree forcefully. The “you are intellectually disabled if you disagree with me” tone of the above remark, however, is how Mr. Trump was elected as president in 2016.
“New York is further ahead on the path that the whole country is on”
I actually don’t think this is true. There is something about New York that is especially bad for COVID19. We are seeing extremely uneven death rates from COVID, that appear to be unrelated to social distancing and exponential growth rates. Washington state and California were originally really bad, and now are not that bad. New York is crazy bad – while they were under the same rules as Chicago.
I’m thinking/hoping that New York just has something that the virus needs, and we can find it and eliminate it. Or maybe the rest of the nation has something it doesn’t like? Maybe it doesn’t like sugary drinks?
Sorry to hear that Rhode Island caved. Their program of using the RI National Guard to stop people with NY plates at the border, taking their contact information and advising them to self quarantine for 14 days while in RI and then letting them go on their way was not unreasonable. I wish NH showed that it cared enough to do the same for its citizens. Our motto is not “Live Free *and* Die”.
A presidential line item veto would do away with all of this nonsense
Like Congressional term limits, that will never happen.
Until a Democrat president who has appointed enough SCOTUS justices needs it.
The problem with a line item veto is that it seems to relieve the various state legislatures of not putting crap in their budgets in the first place. Instead they figure the governor will do their job for them, and if they get lucky, he/she/it will ignore or overlook it and it becomes law. What’s really needed, and won’t happen, is for an executive that is willing to send it back telling them to do it right this time.
I was hoping we had just such a chance this past week. I would have loved to see the BadOrangeMan, during Pelosi’s hostage taking, before the votes, announce that if they sent him a bill with all that crap in it, he’d just veto it and tell ’em to do it right. Of course, the Chattering Comfy Class would have a conniption fit, which would then allow him to point out that they’re only upset because they want their goodies. An opportunity lost.
Those who wanted the Green New Deal I’m sure are disappointed by the outcome and will press hard this November to see the country adopt their agenda.
But am curious about who will be the head of the Dem ticket. Will it be sock-puppet QPJ or Cuomo? I’m feeling a draft, better check the door…
It’s going to get interesting. The virus has pushed back many Dem primaries. Unclear if they are also pushing back the convention. It might be possible the virus stalls the QPJ campaign just enough to get a real “draft” Cuomo underway with enough primaries in play to get to a contested convention if Bernie will endorse Cuomo…. Hmmm. The fun has only begun. How much does it cost to buy a Democratic party super delegate seat at the convention? Anyone know?
Superdelegates are mostly officeholders so I guess the cost of such a convention seat is whatever it cost to finagle one’s way into office in the first place.
Two days ago Cuomo was a very viable alternative to Biden. Yesterday he made enemies of every non-New Yorker in the Northeast by threatening action up to and including civil war to make sure that rich entitled New Yorkers are allowed to spread plague and death to all the other elite Democrat utopias in the region. He won’t recover from that.
We’re wired for a xenophobia regarding pandemic diseases, where the only way your healthy tribe will get infected is if outsiders carry it in. On a psychological level, Cuomo sided with the outsiders as a hostile invading force, similar to the threats from Chinese officials to spread corona virus throughout the West. People don’t process that well, as if it’s a burglar or other ne’er-do-well was propounding their right to invade your home and hurt your family. All trust goes out the window and they get put down on everyone’s enemies list.
I’m sure Cuomo pleased many thousands of rich New Yorkers looking to bolt, but he enraged tens of millions of non-New Yorkers who mostly tolerate rich New Yorkers because they have money. Those divisions, and distrust and suspicions, will remain long after the epidemic has passed, but since people don’t want to think ill of New Yorkers they like, their instinctual protective ire will focus on Cuomo.
I suspect that is why Trump made his statement. I doubt Trump would really force a quarantine like suggested, unless he is getting bad advice (and he is). Politically it is foolish, but it would take some pressure off a few governors. However, the governors are the ones facing this challenge, and Trump can easily be above it. After all, the Commerce Clause is in Article I and then there is the Tenth Amendment.
“New York is further ahead on the path that the whole country is on,” said Jeremy Konyndyk, a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development and former Obama-era foreign aid official. “What we don’t need is inconsistent social distancing and quarantining policies that are driven by presidential tweet.”
It is one thing to disagree and even disagree forcefully. The “you are intellectually disabled if you disagree with me” tone of the above remark, however, is how Mr. Trump was elected as president in 2016.
“New York is further ahead on the path that the whole country is on”
I actually don’t think this is true. There is something about New York that is especially bad for COVID19. We are seeing extremely uneven death rates from COVID, that appear to be unrelated to social distancing and exponential growth rates. Washington state and California were originally really bad, and now are not that bad. New York is crazy bad – while they were under the same rules as Chicago.
I’m thinking/hoping that New York just has something that the virus needs, and we can find it and eliminate it. Or maybe the rest of the nation has something it doesn’t like? Maybe it doesn’t like sugary drinks?
Sorry to hear that Rhode Island caved. Their program of using the RI National Guard to stop people with NY plates at the border, taking their contact information and advising them to self quarantine for 14 days while in RI and then letting them go on their way was not unreasonable. I wish NH showed that it cared enough to do the same for its citizens. Our motto is not “Live Free *and* Die”.
A presidential line item veto would do away with all of this nonsense
Like Congressional term limits, that will never happen.
Until a Democrat president who has appointed enough SCOTUS justices needs it.
The problem with a line item veto is that it seems to relieve the various state legislatures of not putting crap in their budgets in the first place. Instead they figure the governor will do their job for them, and if they get lucky, he/she/it will ignore or overlook it and it becomes law. What’s really needed, and won’t happen, is for an executive that is willing to send it back telling them to do it right this time.
I was hoping we had just such a chance this past week. I would have loved to see the BadOrangeMan, during Pelosi’s hostage taking, before the votes, announce that if they sent him a bill with all that crap in it, he’d just veto it and tell ’em to do it right. Of course, the Chattering Comfy Class would have a conniption fit, which would then allow him to point out that they’re only upset because they want their goodies. An opportunity lost.