Now they want to negotiate a new deal:
The coalition filed a proposed constitutional amendment that would remove the word “inseparable” from the California Constitution’s declaration that the state is “an inseparable part of the United States of America.”
However, it should not be assumed the California Freedom Coalition wants total freedom. The proposed amendment holds out the possibility the state could be “sovereign and autonomous” without actually breaking away from the U.S.
Stephen Gonzales, the president of the California Freedom Coalition, told the Sacramento Bee the amendment would also open the door for negotiation. It would give the state’s governor the freedom to do a deal with Washington for the independence of California.
I guess they’re ignoring those pesky issues like needing the consent of Congress.
Two non-negotiable demands should be for a West Virginia solution, that parts of the state that chose to stay, and can then form new states and territories. The other is that current interstate compacts have to be renegotiated and approved by the Senate as treaties. (And that includes dealings any new state of Mojave or Jefferson.) Make any so-called “Calexit” as painful as possible, and protect as many people as possible who choose not to participate in this folly.
“The proposed amendment holds out the possibility the state could be “sovereign and autonomous” without actually breaking away from the U.S.”
Wow…sovereign and autonomous BUT still being a part of the US?
Not only is that a non-sequitur…it’s the biggest fattest example of having your cake and eating it too that I’ve ever seen.
These people are insane. Certifiable.
I’ve seen it before. They tried that crap in the last Quebec referendum on sovereignty.
Anyone tell them about federalism?
I agree. But it might be an improvement over the first attempt at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation
and it would definitely be an improvement over the second attempt at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Constitution
Sovereign and autonomous but still in USA
Like Scottish Independence at the heart of Europe!
Or (soft) BREXIT
What would happen if the coastal counties were made into a territory, a la Puerto Rico?
All of the states could claim to be sovereign and autonomous before 1913.
The goal is for California to be kind of like Scotland, except in the US. They will still pay their taxes but be able to make more consequential decisions for themselves. Everyone wins. Plus having a separating the inland counties from the coast would mean the Feds would have another taker state unable to support itself.
They will still pay their taxes but be able to make more consequential decisions for themselves.
Such as…? Like whether or not to abide by the Bill of Rights?
What you mean is one of the most dynamic economies in the US wouldn’t be as available to fund backwater red state’s “entitlement” programs (both corporate and individual).
They still abide by the bill of rights. They have not violated them.
Because they have to, not because they want to. And in fact they regularly violate the Second Amendment, with their gun laws.
What it sounds like is that the Governor of California would be allowed to negotiate some sort of treaty witht the President. I believe then that the treaty only needs to be confirmed by the senate in order to be enforced.
a) That’s not how the Constitution works and b) I can’t imagine the Senate approving it even if it did. States cannot “make treaties” with the federal government. Or with other countries.
Yeah, i know. But how else would they do it? A bill, an executive order, or something else? It is all conjecture anyway. Like you said, the Senate would not approve it. They understand how important California is to the US economy, anyway.
Go read Article I Section 10.
Okay i understand. But why aren’t Congress going bananza about the climate agreement between China and California then?
a) They’re busy with other things and b) it’s not their job to enforce the law. It’s the Justice Department that should be filing suit if it goes forward.
Well,I am just suprised they aren’t using for propaganda. I doubt they will do anything.