You don’t try to fundamentally transform something you love.
However you phrase it, it’s hard not to see a lot of contempt for core American values (ones that are generally shared and have been) coming from Obama and many on the left. Some of that is understandable, as our history isn’t perfect, but my problem is that they seem to want to drastically alter or altogether remove typicalities like independence, common sense, entrepreneurship, limited government, and personal freedom. Given our historical success with these virtues, that’s very scary.
That all said, as a libertarian, I, too, want to fundamentally change the country, even though I’d say I’m more or less a “loyal American.”
Of course Obama loves America. The USA has more golf courses than the rest of the world combined.
I think the idea that Obama doesn’t love America is nonsense, but I’ll stipulate that it is true. Does anyone here think that Star Trek’s Mr. Spock would make a good US President, despite his inability to love? I presume Mr. Spock would be incapable of campaigning American-style, but once in office, II think he would make a terrific President. Just imagine how President Spock would react to SLS, but moreover, if the budget needed to be cut, he’d cut it, and I bet none of you would complain about his lack of love.
a) Barack Obama is no Mr. Spock.
b) Mr. Spock might not love America, but he wouldn’t hate it, either.
a) I think many Americans do in fact see Obama as Spock-like, particularly in comparison to McCain and Bush(*). I’m willing to be that some of the Democrats who said yes to the idea that he does’t love America prefer or even celebrate Obama for that reason.
b) I don’t think Rudy was saying that Obama hates America, and I would be interested in seeing a poll on that rather different question.
(*) And Palin but also Biden, and much less so in comparison to Romney.
I suspect that the vast majority of people who say that Obama doesn’t love America think that he actively dislikes it, as currently configured. He and Michelle have essentially said as much.
“a) I think many Americans do in fact see Obama as Spock-like”
Lol. He doesn’t know anything about science. Logic escapes him. He engages in needlessly emotional rhetoric to stir the bigotries of his base against the other.
Three years after Spock passed the ACA and his roll out imploded, he wouldn’t have said, “It turns out the health insurance industry is more complicated that we thought.” Notice the use of the royal we rather than taking personal responsibility for not knowing anything prior to the passage of the ACA or learning anything in the intervening years. Spock would have been an expert prior to writing much less passing legislation.
Same is true for the stimulus. Spock would have analyzed where to spend the money to get the most effect on the economy rather than just giving money to his cronies and interest groups. He would have know what side of the equation to goose if he wanted there to be money to pay government workers. And he wouldn’t have said after the stimulus failed, “It turns out that shovel ready jobs weren’t so shovel ready. heh heh hehe.”
Yes, many Americans saw Obama as Spock like, but many Americans are as stupid he is.
You don’t try to fundamentally transform something you love.
However you phrase it, it’s hard not to see a lot of contempt for core American values (ones that are generally shared and have been) coming from Obama and many on the left. Some of that is understandable, as our history isn’t perfect, but my problem is that they seem to want to drastically alter or altogether remove typicalities like independence, common sense, entrepreneurship, limited government, and personal freedom. Given our historical success with these virtues, that’s very scary.
That all said, as a libertarian, I, too, want to fundamentally change the country, even though I’d say I’m more or less a “loyal American.”
Of course Obama loves America. The USA has more golf courses than the rest of the world combined.
I think the idea that Obama doesn’t love America is nonsense, but I’ll stipulate that it is true. Does anyone here think that Star Trek’s Mr. Spock would make a good US President, despite his inability to love? I presume Mr. Spock would be incapable of campaigning American-style, but once in office, II think he would make a terrific President. Just imagine how President Spock would react to SLS, but moreover, if the budget needed to be cut, he’d cut it, and I bet none of you would complain about his lack of love.
a) Barack Obama is no Mr. Spock.
b) Mr. Spock might not love America, but he wouldn’t hate it, either.
a) I think many Americans do in fact see Obama as Spock-like, particularly in comparison to McCain and Bush(*). I’m willing to be that some of the Democrats who said yes to the idea that he does’t love America prefer or even celebrate Obama for that reason.
b) I don’t think Rudy was saying that Obama hates America, and I would be interested in seeing a poll on that rather different question.
(*) And Palin but also Biden, and much less so in comparison to Romney.
I suspect that the vast majority of people who say that Obama doesn’t love America think that he actively dislikes it, as currently configured. He and Michelle have essentially said as much.
“a) I think many Americans do in fact see Obama as Spock-like”
Lol. He doesn’t know anything about science. Logic escapes him. He engages in needlessly emotional rhetoric to stir the bigotries of his base against the other.
Three years after Spock passed the ACA and his roll out imploded, he wouldn’t have said, “It turns out the health insurance industry is more complicated that we thought.” Notice the use of the royal we rather than taking personal responsibility for not knowing anything prior to the passage of the ACA or learning anything in the intervening years. Spock would have been an expert prior to writing much less passing legislation.
Same is true for the stimulus. Spock would have analyzed where to spend the money to get the most effect on the economy rather than just giving money to his cronies and interest groups. He would have know what side of the equation to goose if he wanted there to be money to pay government workers. And he wouldn’t have said after the stimulus failed, “It turns out that shovel ready jobs weren’t so shovel ready. heh heh hehe.”
Yes, many Americans saw Obama as Spock like, but many Americans are as stupid he is.