“We can’t have free speech in a place like this.”
OK, that’s not the exact quote, but I think I captured the idea:
Swain’s speech must be curtailed, Yamin said: “What I’m really trying to show her is that she can’t continue to say these kinds of things on a campus that’s so liberal and diverse and tolerant” or “say bigoted things about her own students.”
It reminds me of the line from Dr. Strangelove. “Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here, this is the War Room.”
The Left keeps using that word “liberal.” I don’t think it means what they think it means.
They didn’t gag Swain, did not attack her personally, or seek official sanctions against Swain.
Sounds like free speech all round.
Hey Rand, you do recognize that hate speech is used to incite violence, and that that was something the Nazi’s were pretty good at?
Wow.
Translation: What you say is true Andrew, but it doesn’t fit the narrative.
No, what you say Andrew, is true, and utterly irrelevant to this post.
No, what you say Andrew, is true, and utterly irrelevant to this post.
Fair point, my third sentence was pointless and irrelevant.
Thank you for recognizing that.
I don’t always agree with you, but I do generally respect you as a commenter. I thought that out of character.
Andrew, perhaps you didn’t understand what the word “curtailed” means, in the sentence “Swain’s speech must be curtailed.”?
Here, let me help;
Curtailed: reduce in extent or quantity; impose a restriction on.
“civil liberties were further curtailed”
synonyms: reduce, cut, cut down, decrease, lessen, pare down, trim, retrench
Yamin didn’t use the word “curtailed”
Perhaps, Andrew, you missed “she can’t continue to say these kinds of things”?
No, I saw that, “this cannot continue” or similar is a turn of phrase often spoken that doesn’t seem to have any literal meaning, in other words people often say it just to let off steam.
Sounds like free speech all round.
Victoria Jackson, known for portraying celebrities such as Sally Struthers and La Toya Jackson and co-starring with “Weird Al” Yankovic in UHF, tried to take the mic after the protest organizer spoke, but it was summarily turned off, as she recounted in a blog post.
Andrew, you ignorant slut.
Seriously, define “incite violence”. The Supreme Court has done all of the heavy lifting for you. Then try to define “hate speech”. It will basically boil down to whatever gives somebody a bag of butthurt. Since “incite violence” is already defined, why do we need to even concern ourselves with hate speech, even if those damned Nazis (“I hate those guys”) were known to do it? Jesus, grow a brain, Andrew…and get thee over to popehat.com to learn this lesson at the feet of the masters.
To reach peace, teach peace!
That is the double-plus good statement I’ve ever heard!
That quote was from the student who was trying to suppress the speech of a professor. The bright spot is the original response from the Dean of Students (IMHO):
I see we have a new “useful idiot” posting here regularly.
We need a better class of Lefties around here. Steel sharpens steel, and these guys are dull.
It’s indicative what I’ve commented on before: The Rise of the Stupid Left. I attribute it to the prevalence of computers and the general dumbing down of America. If you can just plug in and get your party-lines fed to you over the Internet, you avoid (a) reading “hard” books without pictures, and (b) thinking about what you’ve read. I remember when “liberals” (and by “liberals” I mean of course “tax-happy, coercion-addicted, power-tripping State-fellators”) were smart and well-read. Even a cursory look at the commentariat in the pro-freedom blogosphere tells you them days are gone forever.
So run it by me again as to how free speech was “curtailed”, if Jackson wanted to use a sound system she should have supplied or arranged her own.
On a campus you’re generally going to have to have permission to set up and use your own sound system.
If you take the view that radical Islam is dangerous and moderate Islam means sharia, where women are property, homosexuals have to be executed, and blasphemy must be punished by death, then the students might as well have been protesting in support of the KKK and denouncing civil rights activists, although the KKK were moderates by comparison.
Normally, that would be true. If I protested global warm-mongers, I don’t think I need to get their point of view.
However, this demonstration was meant to engage in a dialog.
So, the muslims didn’t live up to their end of the bargain, which is no surprise.