Lileks has a modest proposal:
The people who want the grocery store to stop stocking Israeli products should sign waivers indicating that they do not wish to be treated with any medicine or device or course of treatment that is the result of Israeli research. This could be entered into their National Health Service database, along the lines of a “Do not Resuscitate” order, and possibly having the same effect.
Then everyone’s happy. But it’s only a start. I think there enough Israeli telecommunications patents to make the protestors think twice about using their mobiles, and it is time for the serious-minded in their midst to foreswear these tainted technologies. Going Jew-free isn’t as easy as it might look, but c’mon, you can still keep in touch. There’s always the mail. It’s not like every stamp has Disraeli on it.
In many ways, I feel like we’re reliving the thirties.
But…but…that would require…sacrifices! Nnnoooooooooo! Hashtag rage and rock-throwing are so much easier.
It’s interesting how outrage today is a mile wide, and an inch deep. There’s something significant there, I think, but I can’t put my finger on it.
Yes, it’s like we’re reliving the 30s. For the last 60 years, FDR and his economy killing experiments in government have been feted as the savior instead of the extender of the great depression in history and civics classes. So it’s no big surprise.
=George Santayana
I certainly hope the anti-Jews don’t use Intel chips in their phones or computers.
These and other idiots are what Armageddon is all about.
The jews have always been a major target of repression not merely because they were outsiders but because they were successful. Nothing is more infuriating and few things make it as easy to dehumanize and collectively punish a people than that. There’s this perverse zeitgeist that it’s ok to hate and hurt “the rich” based on some bizarre idea that they either must deserve it or they can take it because being “rich” is such a huge offsetting advantage. Combine that with the typical jealousy and resentment from the less successful against the successful (whether it’s the korean or pakistani convenience store owner or the jewish professional or what-have-you) and you have all the ingredients necessary for the dehuminization and hatred cocktail. Then it’s actually not much of a long hop from those very common ideas (punish the rich because it doesn’t hurt them as much or they deserve it) to just complete hatred and even genocide. Once you create that inter-tribal “us vs them” setting then it often runs away on its own, often toward some very serious consequences (race riots, lynchings, sometimes worse). We’ve seen many various versions of such phenomena within the last century, with the jews especially but also with other communities like the chinese/japanese in america during the early 20th and so on.
This.
I bet I’m not going out on a limb if I suppose that many of the frequent commenters here were the smartest kids in their schools, and can personally relate with Robin’s first two sentences above.
Wouldn’t be at all surprised if this happened here and not just against Jews. Spent some time with progressives in meat space over the weekend and I can not believe how bigoted they are against religious people. There is the sentiment, and we have seen it in the comments here, that people who are religious are defective, inferior, incapable of logical thought, that they couldn’t possibly be capable of performing a job in any number of technical and non-technical fields. I do not know how to combat this type of bigotry. Stories about religious people being kind, smart, caring, inclusive, and many other positive attributes have zero effect in getting through the bigoted stereotypes.
When I hang out with religious people, they don’t sit around bashing other religions, gays, minorities, nerds, or anyone else as the stereotypes would have you believe but when I hang out with the self proclaimed superiorly enlightened who also claim the mantle of most intelligent and tolerant it is almost nothing but hate, denigration, and bigotry directed at people who are different.
Last weekend, it centered on Mormons because the Book of Mormon is in town. So I got to sit around and listen to Democrats say how terrible Mormons are because at one point in their history, they did not treat black people well. Democrats, the party of the KKK, thought some other group shouldn’t exist because of past sins.
It goes to more than not treating black people well. The Mormons at one point stated that some already settled place in the USA was their promised land and that they had the right to it. Not the existing settlers. As a result they had to be kicked out of there by the US Army and happened to resettle in Utah which was a place most people were not interested in living one because. Heck. It is mostly desert.
Do they act that way today? Maybe we should hold everyone accountable for the sins of their ancestors? We wouldn’t have any people left on the planet. The Democrat party certainly wouldn’t exist.
I have had nothing but positive interactions with Mormons. While, I don’t follow their religion, I also don’t think bigotry is the proper response to their existence. You can acknowledge their origin and their flawed history without being a bigot to them today.
Maybe we should hold everyone accountable for the sins of their ancestors?
I’m looking at the Dutch and the Spaniards.
I have an ancestral bone to pick with English Puritans.
Then there is the fact that the Mormon religion was founded by a well known and convicted crook who claimed he reformed himself and saw an angel of god. Yeah right.
But his comment refers to people today. In the 19th century, blacks were treated poorly by most people, not just Mormons.
People are treated badly by people. We should work on that.
And that entitles you to treat them a certain way?
Religious people have a reputation of being authoritarian bigots because far too many of them are exactly that. Another reason is that the beliefs held by a small minority of the religious are a hairsbreadth away from being evidence of mental illness – or at the very least, invincible stupidity.. YECs, for example.
“Religious people have a
reputationstereotype of being authoritarian bigots because far too many of them areexactlyaccused of that. ”FTFY