17 thoughts on “The Crash Site”

  1. It is sort of like the debacle in securing the site in Benghazi. CNN reporters found Ambassador Steven’s diary in the wreckage weeks after the attack, which is remarkable because so many thousands of people had picked through the site already. IMO, in both cases there are powerful people who don’t want the answers found so they create an environment that will prevent it.

    In Obama’s speech today, he said that Putin was destroying evidence and suggested that the destruction of evidence meant Putin was hiding something. He apparently said this without everyone in attendance bursting out laughing at Obama as I was at home. Our country’s history is in conflict between our ideals and our actions but never has the difference been so stark as when Obama condemns foreign countries for things his administration does on a daily basis.

  2. When there aren’t negative consequences to destruction of evidence, then the obvious happens. And I find Obama’s hypocrisy less odious than his inaction. Odds are good that the missile fragments, the primary incriminating evidence in the case, are already destroyed.

  3. So what are you proposing Rand? That the U.S. Marines invade the Ukraine to secure the remains of an airliner that belongs to a foreign nation?

    1. [Going back and rereading my post, since Tom didn’t seem to do so.]

      Nope. Can’t see that I proposed anything at all. Are you sure you’re commenting at the right web site?

      1. No, I am in the right place. This is a foreign airliner shot down in a foreign nation during an insurgency. So why are you comparing it to a decades old suicide, other than of course you want folks to remember the old right wing attacks against Hilary Clinton….

        Really Rand, next thing you do will be celebrating the White Water anniversaries 🙂

        1. You don’t need to be “right wing” to point out Hillary’s corruption. Anyway, I was just pointing out another example of a bungled crime scene.

  4. I occasionally follow up on the blog “Organizing Notes,” listed in our host’s Blogroll with the original name “Space4Peace.” Our host accurately categorizes it as “Inadvertent Comic Relief.”

    The author is an old-school radical peacenik. Who, IIRC, considers Obama to be right-wing. I’m puzzled why he supports Putin, though, since Putin is no Marxist. Reflexive Anti-Americanism?

    It simultaneously amazes and amuses me to see him try to spin the MH17 shoot-down.

    1. You tell ’em, Comrade dn-guy.

      Pssstt! By the way, I’ve been working in DC for 4 years, now. Where is Fort Marcy Park?

  6. Rand,
    It sounds like some progress is being made (like news that Malaysia expects to get the black boxes tonight), but I think the fact that this crash site is in the middle of an active war zone should be taken into account. Even if there were no incentive on the Ukrainian or Separatist side to delay an investigation, the fact that there is active shelling and combat going on nearby would have delayed things a lot already.

    Do expect that there’s a good chance that one or both sides is hoping to delay things a bit? Sure, that’s not at all improbably. But the baseline you compare it against shouldn’t be a criminal investigation in the US, but against a war crimes investigation in an active war zone. And all things considered, it sounds like it could be worse.

    Not at all trying to defend Putin or the separatists here, just trying to bring a little realism into the conversation.
    ~Jon

    1. “just trying to bring a little realism into the conversation.”

      I don’t think realism is a word ever associated to Rand.

  7. The Vince Foster “investigation” wasn’t botched – the cover-up worked just fine. >:-(

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