Adrian Moore explains why he can’t take it any more.
37 thoughts on “Leaving California”
I believe he mentioned he is moving to Florida.
He is welcome to move there. Perhaps he can buy a nice house on the beach, and
pay for his own flood and hurricane insurance and not be a parasite by using the
state program.
I live on the Gulf Coast of FL and pay for my own flood and “hurricane’ insurance (Note: wind damage is *not* covered.) Are you referring to Citizens?
Just ignore the moron. Every village needs an idiot. He’s ours.
He’s not the one who created the federal flood insurance program.
So, would you join with me in voting to repeal the federal flood insurance program?
At least seriously modifying it.
What modifications do you want done?
The premiums rise if you haven’t engineered for a 100 year flood,
If you have a claimable event, you can’t get new insurance,
unless you engineer for a 500 year flood.
The maps are updated every 5 years, to account for local developement changes.
If you live in hurricane country, you have to be hurricane hardened against a
Cat 3 hurricane or you can’t get coverage. If you have a claimable hurricane event you have to be hardened against a Cat 5 hurricane.
it’s a huge waste of resources to see, people getting flooded out year after year, getting a payoff and then doing the same thing again.
It sucks to have to elevate your house, but, it’s what you do.
I’ve seen plenty of these homes on the Delaware shore, jacked 12 feet up on
telephone poles. They get a 6 foot storm surge, the biggest hassle is they have to drive all the cars inland 10 miles and bicycle back or, get a ride from someone.
that’s why you don’t hear about massive storm damage there.
Or just repeal the whole thing and you are off of the hook for it, instead of wanting to demand how someone build their house.
I am okay with ending the Federal Flood Insurance program but,
that means that FDIC banks and Mortgages traded in Interstate commerce
cannot be underwritten except as JUNK paper
Do you have any idea how big Florida is? Hint: it isn’t all beach.
Comparing the University of Florida with any of the colleges in the UC system. Yeah man sure….
What is wrong with pasteurized milk? I would rather *not* get sick thank you.
Same number of state workers per capita in Florida than in California. The grass is always greener on the other side.
Way to miss the point.
The point is the state mandates that milk is pasteurized and makes it extraordinarily difficult to drink raw milk even if you want to and are aware of the risks.
Also a bad assumption that just because you drink raw milk you will get sick.
Why do people hate freedom so much? Yes that includes the freedom to take the risk of getting sick.
Freedom doesn’t need millions of bureaucrats with big pay checks and fat pensions telling everyone else what to do.
What is wrong with pasteurized milk? I would rather *not* get sick thank you.
No one is making you buy unpasteurized milk. But the government is preventing others from doing so.
Probably the same people who do not want to get vaccinated I expect.
It’s crazy how all those Amish died centuries ago because they didn’t pasteurize their milk.
We’d also better force mothers to pasteurize their breast milk before nursing
We are all still here. Why bother with clean water either? Why do you think average life expectancy has been rising? It is because of measures like this.
False analogy. The city provides water to your home.
Are you going to arrest me if I go drink uncleaned water out of a lake?
How did anyone ever live prior to the government telling everyone what to do all the time?
Apparently the entire human race has been completely wiped out multiple times over until the Democrats came.
Probably the same people who do not want to get vaccinated I expect.
That’s a pretty stupid argument, Godzilla. There’s no herd immunity to be had from mandating pasteurizing milk. So no social benefit to be gained from that point of view.
A lot of the diseases transmitted through infected milk are infectious after they pass to the human host as well. So yes you can infect other people because you drank infected milk.
A lot of the diseases you can get through pasteurized milk are infectious too.
A lot of diseases you can get from anywhere are infectious. Welcome to life.
If someone dies or is disabled from Hemolytic Uremia due to E. Coli in unpasteurized milk,
who is responsible for the medical bills and the loss of income?
The individual unless the producer was criminally negligent. No one should be buying unpasteurized milk or medium rare burgers, unless they assume the responsibility for making that decision.
Let me guess, you think the government is responsible.
Now that my insurance premiums subsidize other people’s lifestyles, I think we need to outlaw milk and restaurants. Also, we need to get rid of tv’s , computers, birthdays, alcohol, cars, sports, walking in the rain, ect ect .
He wants to move to a red welfare state where the population receives more in federal dollars than they send to the treasury. I say good riddance. Those of us who can make it in California will continue to do so.
Gosh-darn but I’ll bet those grapes were sour anyway, right Dave?
Yeah, all those old people move to Florida to retire and collect their social security and medicare.
I just spoke with an employee of a company here in Seattle, whose main office is in California. They’re leaving California as fast as they can. Why? In his words, the California government “has gone completely crazy.”
So another productive business leaves California to a red welfare state: Washington.
that would be nice if it were true.
woosh…
If what were true?
Those red states don’t have any control over the federal welfare programs that federal blue state representatives got passed.
There are no red “welfare” states. The states with the highest per capita welfare case loads are all very blue.
I don’t know about per capita, but in absolute numbers California has 1/3 of all welfare clients in the entire United States. The Democrats who run this place seem bent on achieving a state population consisting entirely of government employees and welfare clients. They’ve been making excellent progress toward this goal lately.
We are all still here. Why bother with clean water either? Why do you think average life expectancy has been rising? It is because of measures like this.
I thought you dems were smarter than the rest. I thought you would come with a scalpel, not a hammer to the regulation table.
Since some are desperately trying to avoid the point:
“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as “bad luck.” — Robert Heinlein, emphasis mine
I believe he mentioned he is moving to Florida.
He is welcome to move there. Perhaps he can buy a nice house on the beach, and
pay for his own flood and hurricane insurance and not be a parasite by using the
state program.
I live on the Gulf Coast of FL and pay for my own flood and “hurricane’ insurance (Note: wind damage is *not* covered.) Are you referring to Citizens?
Just ignore the moron. Every village needs an idiot. He’s ours.
He’s not the one who created the federal flood insurance program.
So, would you join with me in voting to repeal the federal flood insurance program?
At least seriously modifying it.
What modifications do you want done?
The premiums rise if you haven’t engineered for a 100 year flood,
If you have a claimable event, you can’t get new insurance,
unless you engineer for a 500 year flood.
The maps are updated every 5 years, to account for local developement changes.
If you live in hurricane country, you have to be hurricane hardened against a
Cat 3 hurricane or you can’t get coverage. If you have a claimable hurricane event you have to be hardened against a Cat 5 hurricane.
it’s a huge waste of resources to see, people getting flooded out year after year, getting a payoff and then doing the same thing again.
It sucks to have to elevate your house, but, it’s what you do.
I’ve seen plenty of these homes on the Delaware shore, jacked 12 feet up on
telephone poles. They get a 6 foot storm surge, the biggest hassle is they have to drive all the cars inland 10 miles and bicycle back or, get a ride from someone.
that’s why you don’t hear about massive storm damage there.
Or just repeal the whole thing and you are off of the hook for it, instead of wanting to demand how someone build their house.
I am okay with ending the Federal Flood Insurance program but,
that means that FDIC banks and Mortgages traded in Interstate commerce
cannot be underwritten except as JUNK paper
Do you have any idea how big Florida is? Hint: it isn’t all beach.
Comparing the University of Florida with any of the colleges in the UC system. Yeah man sure….
What is wrong with pasteurized milk? I would rather *not* get sick thank you.
As for the weight of the state…
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/public-workforce-salaries/states-most-government-workers-public-employees-by-job-type.html
Same number of state workers per capita in Florida than in California. The grass is always greener on the other side.
Way to miss the point.
The point is the state mandates that milk is pasteurized and makes it extraordinarily difficult to drink raw milk even if you want to and are aware of the risks.
Also a bad assumption that just because you drink raw milk you will get sick.
Why do people hate freedom so much? Yes that includes the freedom to take the risk of getting sick.
Freedom doesn’t need millions of bureaucrats with big pay checks and fat pensions telling everyone else what to do.
What is wrong with pasteurized milk? I would rather *not* get sick thank you.
No one is making you buy unpasteurized milk. But the government is preventing others from doing so.
Probably the same people who do not want to get vaccinated I expect.
It’s crazy how all those Amish died centuries ago because they didn’t pasteurize their milk.
We’d also better force mothers to pasteurize their breast milk before nursing
We are all still here. Why bother with clean water either? Why do you think average life expectancy has been rising? It is because of measures like this.
False analogy. The city provides water to your home.
Are you going to arrest me if I go drink uncleaned water out of a lake?
How did anyone ever live prior to the government telling everyone what to do all the time?
Apparently the entire human race has been completely wiped out multiple times over until the Democrats came.
Probably the same people who do not want to get vaccinated I expect.
That’s a pretty stupid argument, Godzilla. There’s no herd immunity to be had from mandating pasteurizing milk. So no social benefit to be gained from that point of view.
A lot of the diseases transmitted through infected milk are infectious after they pass to the human host as well. So yes you can infect other people because you drank infected milk.
A lot of the diseases you can get through pasteurized milk are infectious too.
A lot of diseases you can get from anywhere are infectious. Welcome to life.
If someone dies or is disabled from Hemolytic Uremia due to E. Coli in unpasteurized milk,
who is responsible for the medical bills and the loss of income?
The individual unless the producer was criminally negligent. No one should be buying unpasteurized milk or medium rare burgers, unless they assume the responsibility for making that decision.
Let me guess, you think the government is responsible.
Now that my insurance premiums subsidize other people’s lifestyles, I think we need to outlaw milk and restaurants. Also, we need to get rid of tv’s , computers, birthdays, alcohol, cars, sports, walking in the rain, ect ect .
He wants to move to a red welfare state where the population receives more in federal dollars than they send to the treasury. I say good riddance. Those of us who can make it in California will continue to do so.
Gosh-darn but I’ll bet those grapes were sour anyway, right Dave?
Yeah, all those old people move to Florida to retire and collect their social security and medicare.
I just spoke with an employee of a company here in Seattle, whose main office is in California. They’re leaving California as fast as they can. Why? In his words, the California government “has gone completely crazy.”
So another productive business leaves California to a red welfare state: Washington.
that would be nice if it were true.
woosh…
If what were true?
Those red states don’t have any control over the federal welfare programs that federal blue state representatives got passed.
There are no red “welfare” states. The states with the highest per capita welfare case loads are all very blue.
I don’t know about per capita, but in absolute numbers California has 1/3 of all welfare clients in the entire United States. The Democrats who run this place seem bent on achieving a state population consisting entirely of government employees and welfare clients. They’ve been making excellent progress toward this goal lately.
We are all still here. Why bother with clean water either? Why do you think average life expectancy has been rising? It is because of measures like this.
I thought you dems were smarter than the rest. I thought you would come with a scalpel, not a hammer to the regulation table.
Squirrel! Pasteurized Milk! Squirrel! Florida! SQUIRREL!
Since some are desperately trying to avoid the point:
“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as “bad luck.” — Robert Heinlein, emphasis mine