Once she was an Obama idiot, and now she’s an anti-Obama idiot. If you watch the clip through to the end, she rants about how “government” is the problem, and honestly seems to believe that it doesn’t make any difference who’s in power. So poor poor Obama, it’s not his fault. It’s “government”. She’s a once and future idiot, and she’s basically an anarchist without any understanding of what that actually means. On the plus side, she’s at least an honest leftie. It’s shocking to me how many people felt righteous rage against Bush, but will now bend over backwards to excuse the same behavior and worse from their own guy, and their only rejoinder (if challenged) is “but but but REPUBLICANS!” (or words to that effect.)
she rants about how “government” is the problem, and honestly seems to believe that
Government *is* the problem. Washington, Jefferson, Reagan all understood that. Today’s “Republicans” don’t know what they stand for.
Government is both good and bad. We reap the most good, and limit the bad it can do, when we keep it a manageable size. It always amazes me the dimwits who want to give the government absolute power never seem to imagine that those very powers will be available to the people they hate when the political pendulum swings back the other way.
“A government powerful enough to give you everything you desire, is also powerful enough to take it all away.” -R. Reagan
Washington? The one who led troops against tax protesters? What did he have against government?
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”
They used to teach these things in school.
Washington didn’t think that fire was the problem, and he didn’t think that government was the problem. He knew that there were good, necessary uses for both.
Washington didn’t think that fire was the problem, and he didn’t think that government was the problem.
Do you know why? Because they weren’t problems at the time, like a fire burning timidly in the hearth. He wouldn’t think the same of our overly powerful, intrusive, law breaking, ridiculous complex government. It is a problem just like a fire burning a house down.
As an aside, the origin of the quote actually appears to come from the novel, “The Deerslayer” which was written in 1841, well after Washington’s death, and only spoke of fire as the “powerful servant but fearful master”. The attribution to Washington appears to have been made in 1902 or perhaps a bit later by Upton Sinclair who wrote a book in 1915 which incorporated the saying.
Keep working on it. I’m sure you’ll figure it out some day.
Compared to State-humpin’ Jim and the other Obamabots–not to mention their Dear Leader–Washington at his most Federalist was a Rothbardian libertarian by comparison.
I can pretty much guarantee that you and her would violently disagree on pretty much everything. Watch her video. You know that meme about reading something before you comment? It applies to videos too.
I watched it. While she does not appear particularly bright, she has at least figured out that the problem is government power, and the problem cannot be solved merely by having the right charismatic leader wielding that power.
That gives me hope. If Obama Girl can figure it out, anyone can. Maybe even Jim, or “Bush Boy” Whittington.
The unfortunate part is the opposition can’t articulate it.
It is NOT “We hate government”, even if Jim thinks that’s what’s being said. It’s “This same level of quality can be achieved with LESS government.”
NIST is -gnat- sized compared to the EPA.
“Government *is* the problem. ”
When Democrats fail, it is always the system at fault rather than the people who make up the system. When Republicans fail, it is always the person in charge at fault.
Obama might be total fail as President but it really has nothing to do with him, just the system. The problem with the IRS has nothing to do with the intentions of IRS employees and is just the system.
Blaming the government or the system is just a cop out.
When Democrats fail, it is always the system at fault rather than the people who make up the system. When Republicans fail, it is always the person in charge at fault.
Maybe the problem is sweeping generalizations.
“Maybe the problem is sweeping generalizations.”
Lol, that’s rich coming from a Democrat. It is nothing but sweeping racist and gender based stereotypes from you guys.
I have heard too many times from too many Democrats that Obama isn’t to blame but rather the system. OWS did a lot of this too. IIRC, you blamed the system for what the IRS and the Obama administration did.
You can actually generalize this from “government is the problem” to “any large organization of people” is the problem.
Individually, people can be pretty creative, bright, good willed etc. In groups, they are subject to different impulses of psychology and act under different incentives. The outcomes are frighteningly predictable
I’m pretty sure that something akin to psychohistory can be actually formulated – probably not with exact mathematical constructs
“….she rants about how “government” is the problem, ”
It is.
“and honestly seems to believe that it doesn’t make any difference who’s in power.”
Becoming more and more true…not a dime’s worth of difference between the establishment wings of both parties.
OTOH, she’ll still be voting for these people.
When government becomes as large and unlimited in its scope of ability to screw with people’s lives, then no, it probably doesn’t matter who’s in charge. When it’s limited to a few necessary tasks and not allowed to get into socialized handout programs, who’s in charge can make a difference.
She’s not the brightest bulb (though her original over-reaction to Obama getting elected already told us that).
Is it bad that I stopped listening about 1:00 into the clip and just rooted for a ‘wardrobe malfunction’ after she took off Obama’s shirt?
“….She’s not the brightest bulb”
Being young is the time to be stupid.
To her credit, she’s willing to stop defending the indefensible. Willing to admit she made a mistake.
Unlike, say, our Beloved Jim here. I’d say she’s evolved way past Jim and Gerrib….and at her tender years! Here’s hoping she continues to gain wisdom.
Tom: no. That just means you’re a healthy man. 🙂
That girl is as cute as a bunny, and dumb as a box of rocks. Maybe, eventually, she’ll manage to shake off a lot of the dogma and learn about the real world.
That’s what I was thinking, too: bunny/rocks. Watch how she’s burning the shirt: torch in one hand, shirt in the other, and when the flames get too high she throws the shirt on the lawn. She’s lucky she didn’t burn herself. Tongs, or at least a pair of pliers, girl! and on the driveway – you kids get off my lawn…
She will be hearing from the EPA for those carbon emissions.
Enjoy the audit, toots.
Does anyone not think that she’ll just fall again for the next huckster to come along promising unicorns and rainbows? I guess time will tell…
Gregg expresses the hope we should all have, wisdom with age.
I guess I have no room to criticize her, seeing as how I voted for Carter in my first election when I was 18.
She does seem to be moving in the direction of libertarianism, and is developing a healthy skepticism of government. That’s good.
Something’s missing, though. She didn’t say anything about free-market capitalism. We should chip in to buy her copies of Bastiat’s “The Law” and Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom”.
She doesn’t strike me as a serious reader.
“She didn’t say anything about free-market capitalism. ”
Why should she? Where would she have been taught that those words even go together to form a phrase?
Certainly not in a public school system or college.
This is a case of unknown unknowns I would think.
This girl is not alone. I can’t even find one person here that believes in property rights above government rights. Yeah, even among you!
There’s no such thing as government rights so I don’t know where you’re going with that.
And really there is no such thing as “property rights.” Property per se doesn’t have rights. But property-owners to.
Those rights are enforced and enumerated by a government.
When the US government purchased Louisiana, the land there transitioned.
When the Americans seized the west in the mexican-american war, the land transitioned.
There used to be a lot of indians in the New World, the Europeans came and struck them of their rights.
Another brilliant post from dn-guy that screams the question, “And your point is?”
It’s a wonder this guy isn’t so busy going to Mensa meetings that he has time to post any of these things.
Rights are enforced when people understand and defend them.
…rights … enumerated by a government
Read the ninth amendment… now the hard part… understand the ninth amendment.
There’s no such thing as government rights
Emphasis added. But do we believe in the individual right to claim by possession that which nobody owns?
She’s clearly saying all of these hateful things solely because he’s black.
Once she was an Obama idiot, and now she’s an anti-Obama idiot. If you watch the clip through to the end, she rants about how “government” is the problem, and honestly seems to believe that it doesn’t make any difference who’s in power. So poor poor Obama, it’s not his fault. It’s “government”. She’s a once and future idiot, and she’s basically an anarchist without any understanding of what that actually means. On the plus side, she’s at least an honest leftie. It’s shocking to me how many people felt righteous rage against Bush, but will now bend over backwards to excuse the same behavior and worse from their own guy, and their only rejoinder (if challenged) is “but but but REPUBLICANS!” (or words to that effect.)
she rants about how “government” is the problem, and honestly seems to believe that
Government *is* the problem. Washington, Jefferson, Reagan all understood that. Today’s “Republicans” don’t know what they stand for.
Government is both good and bad. We reap the most good, and limit the bad it can do, when we keep it a manageable size. It always amazes me the dimwits who want to give the government absolute power never seem to imagine that those very powers will be available to the people they hate when the political pendulum swings back the other way.
“A government powerful enough to give you everything you desire, is also powerful enough to take it all away.” -R. Reagan
Washington? The one who led troops against tax protesters? What did he have against government?
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”
They used to teach these things in school.
Washington didn’t think that fire was the problem, and he didn’t think that government was the problem. He knew that there were good, necessary uses for both.
Washington didn’t think that fire was the problem, and he didn’t think that government was the problem.
Do you know why? Because they weren’t problems at the time, like a fire burning timidly in the hearth. He wouldn’t think the same of our overly powerful, intrusive, law breaking, ridiculous complex government. It is a problem just like a fire burning a house down.
As an aside, the origin of the quote actually appears to come from the novel, “The Deerslayer” which was written in 1841, well after Washington’s death, and only spoke of fire as the “powerful servant but fearful master”. The attribution to Washington appears to have been made in 1902 or perhaps a bit later by Upton Sinclair who wrote a book in 1915 which incorporated the saying.
Keep working on it. I’m sure you’ll figure it out some day.
Compared to State-humpin’ Jim and the other Obamabots–not to mention their Dear Leader–Washington at his most Federalist was a Rothbardian libertarian by comparison.
I can pretty much guarantee that you and her would violently disagree on pretty much everything. Watch her video. You know that meme about reading something before you comment? It applies to videos too.
I watched it. While she does not appear particularly bright, she has at least figured out that the problem is government power, and the problem cannot be solved merely by having the right charismatic leader wielding that power.
That gives me hope. If Obama Girl can figure it out, anyone can. Maybe even Jim, or “Bush Boy” Whittington.
The unfortunate part is the opposition can’t articulate it.
It is NOT “We hate government”, even if Jim thinks that’s what’s being said. It’s “This same level of quality can be achieved with LESS government.”
NIST is -gnat- sized compared to the EPA.
“Government *is* the problem. ”
When Democrats fail, it is always the system at fault rather than the people who make up the system. When Republicans fail, it is always the person in charge at fault.
Obama might be total fail as President but it really has nothing to do with him, just the system. The problem with the IRS has nothing to do with the intentions of IRS employees and is just the system.
Blaming the government or the system is just a cop out.
When Democrats fail, it is always the system at fault rather than the people who make up the system. When Republicans fail, it is always the person in charge at fault.
Maybe the problem is sweeping generalizations.
“Maybe the problem is sweeping generalizations.”
Lol, that’s rich coming from a Democrat. It is nothing but sweeping racist and gender based stereotypes from you guys.
I have heard too many times from too many Democrats that Obama isn’t to blame but rather the system. OWS did a lot of this too. IIRC, you blamed the system for what the IRS and the Obama administration did.
You can actually generalize this from “government is the problem” to “any large organization of people” is the problem.
Individually, people can be pretty creative, bright, good willed etc. In groups, they are subject to different impulses of psychology and act under different incentives. The outcomes are frighteningly predictable
I’m pretty sure that something akin to psychohistory can be actually formulated – probably not with exact mathematical constructs
http://www.psychohistory.org/
“….she rants about how “government” is the problem, ”
It is.
“and honestly seems to believe that it doesn’t make any difference who’s in power.”
Becoming more and more true…not a dime’s worth of difference between the establishment wings of both parties.
OTOH, she’ll still be voting for these people.
When government becomes as large and unlimited in its scope of ability to screw with people’s lives, then no, it probably doesn’t matter who’s in charge. When it’s limited to a few necessary tasks and not allowed to get into socialized handout programs, who’s in charge can make a difference.
She’s not the brightest bulb (though her original over-reaction to Obama getting elected already told us that).
Is it bad that I stopped listening about 1:00 into the clip and just rooted for a ‘wardrobe malfunction’ after she took off Obama’s shirt?
“….She’s not the brightest bulb”
Being young is the time to be stupid.
To her credit, she’s willing to stop defending the indefensible. Willing to admit she made a mistake.
Unlike, say, our Beloved Jim here. I’d say she’s evolved way past Jim and Gerrib….and at her tender years! Here’s hoping she continues to gain wisdom.
Tom: no. That just means you’re a healthy man. 🙂
That girl is as cute as a bunny, and dumb as a box of rocks. Maybe, eventually, she’ll manage to shake off a lot of the dogma and learn about the real world.
That’s what I was thinking, too: bunny/rocks. Watch how she’s burning the shirt: torch in one hand, shirt in the other, and when the flames get too high she throws the shirt on the lawn. She’s lucky she didn’t burn herself. Tongs, or at least a pair of pliers, girl! and on the driveway – you kids get off my lawn…
She will be hearing from the EPA for those carbon emissions.
Enjoy the audit, toots.
Does anyone not think that she’ll just fall again for the next huckster to come along promising unicorns and rainbows? I guess time will tell…
Gregg expresses the hope we should all have, wisdom with age.
I guess I have no room to criticize her, seeing as how I voted for Carter in my first election when I was 18.
She does seem to be moving in the direction of libertarianism, and is developing a healthy skepticism of government. That’s good.
Something’s missing, though. She didn’t say anything about free-market capitalism. We should chip in to buy her copies of Bastiat’s “The Law” and Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom”.
She doesn’t strike me as a serious reader.
“She didn’t say anything about free-market capitalism. ”
Why should she? Where would she have been taught that those words even go together to form a phrase?
Certainly not in a public school system or college.
This is a case of unknown unknowns I would think.
This girl is not alone. I can’t even find one person here that believes in property rights above government rights. Yeah, even among you!
There’s no such thing as government rights so I don’t know where you’re going with that.
And really there is no such thing as “property rights.” Property per se doesn’t have rights. But property-owners to.
Those rights are enforced and enumerated by a government.
When the US government purchased Louisiana, the land there transitioned.
When the Americans seized the west in the mexican-american war, the land transitioned.
There used to be a lot of indians in the New World, the Europeans came and struck them of their rights.
Another brilliant post from dn-guy that screams the question, “And your point is?”
It’s a wonder this guy isn’t so busy going to Mensa meetings that he has time to post any of these things.
Rights are enforced when people understand and defend them.
…rights … enumerated by a government
Read the ninth amendment… now the hard part… understand the ninth amendment.
There’s no such thing as government rights
Emphasis added. But do we believe in the individual right to claim by possession that which nobody owns?
She’s clearly saying all of these hateful things solely because he’s black.