We know they always wanted to get to single payer. They’ll do whatever they have to in order to push toward that goal. The question is whether or not the Republicans and voters let them get away with it. Of course, a few lawsuits would help as well.
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Is there anyone stupid enough to believe that, after the complete mess Obama has made of ObamaCare so far, turning over all health care to the government is a good idea? Seriously, is anyone that dumb?
It’s working for the EU; first they create the Euro, then it destroys the economies of the more laid-back EU states, then they demand more centralized economic power to ‘solve’ that.
How many times has the left’s “first create a problem, then offer to solve it with more state control” strategy failed?
Sure, dn-guy and Baghdad Jim, for starters.
So obamacare as it stands is communism.
Whats single-payer?
Double plus good communism. I sense a lack of enthusiasm for the new system comrade. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Obama bless you.
People without reading comprehension issues recognized the initial complaints as:
“Obamacare necessarily -leads- -to- single-payer.” (The incentives and penalties are such that certain practices will collapse.)
Obama -quoted- on film as saying ‘yes, single-payer is the actual goal, but we’ll have to detour first to get there!”
And the critics are apparently trying to get a twofer out of different sides of the same argument. “Hey, Obamacare -isn’t- Communism” and “Hey, I thought you said -that- was Communism.”
First tier intellects all.
I don’t buy the Grand Strategery bit. These people are dumber than their Bush caricatures, and really do believe their own lies.
But I do believe that we are going to be told that the fixes for these massive failures of Big Incompetent Socialism can only come from Even Bigger and More Incompetent Socialism. Run by the same people, of course, who cause the earlier set of failures.
Raoul,
I believe they did have a Grand Strategy. Eventually control all US Health Care from within the Executive Branch, and use the (expected) ObamaCare goodies to buy enough votes to keep the Democrats in control of the White House and both Houses of Congress, forever. Because what the Democrats (and 99.9 percent of all politicians, at every level) want is POWER. Power to control the health care availability and options of all US citizens would be intoxicating to people like Obama, Sebelius, Pelosi, Reid, and their compatriots. We can see how they planned to use that power in the waivers handed-out to unions and others. You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours. And when the IPAB starts limiting options and choices, well, if Joe Citizen in Pelosi’s district asks Pelosi to please arrange an exemption for his 67 year-old Grandpa to get a hip replacement, Joe can forget about it if he’s not ready to contribute some big bucks to Pelosi’s campaign fund.
It’s all about the immense political POWER they see at the end of the Health Care Rainbow, and that’s why Obama and Company are fighting any and all proposals to ditch ObamaCare completely, or let Congress pass even small revisions. Much better to “enforce” the current law by HHS fiat and strong-arming the insurance companies, which is how I believe Obama, Sebelius, and the rest of the Democratic crowd planned to run ObamaCare all along. That’s what really scares me about the PPACA law surviving as-is, because if the Democrats ever do control both the Executive and Legislative Branches in the future with PPACA in-place, especially the IPAB, we’ve already seen seen how the Dems are ready to millions of citizens under the bus, proclaiming: “It’s only a small percentage of the population – what’s the big F’ing deal? A few miillion get screwed, but hundreds of millions are better off!”
Raoul,
I buy the single payer grand strategy (and have said so many times here). However I don’t think part of that strategy was an effed-up roll out. I think they wanted the roll out to go well and then once everyone got used to the great big shafting they got (losing health care and having to buy from exchanges), they would then use that success as leverage to “tweak” the system more driving it towards total single payer.
Remember than throwing entities under the bus is what these people do. The insurance companies are, to the Obama, Pelosi, Reid crowd, merely useful tools in The Plan. They would turn on the insurance companies at the propitious moment, and accuse them of making more millions suffer. Same sort of way that the leaders in North Korea rattle the saber whenever they need more food for the millions of NoKo’s who are starving because of the very policies of the leader.
Progressives are both patient and relentless. And they are also capable of capitalizing on circumstance – like the current chaos they created.
However I suspect the amount of chaos that exists is a little too much for them – you can’t let things go too nuts before the mark cotton’s on to the con.
So if Obamacare is only about political power for the dems, does that mean the
existing system is all about political power for the GOP?
Have you ever taken a course in logic? If so, you should demand you money back.
That’d be fun to watch. He’d probably wind up paying a second time.
No, it means the pre-Obamacare system was all about helping the patients, which is why it evolved over a long span of time based on people’s individual choices, including decisions by doctors. The federal government largely stayed out of it except for setting standards for drug testing, medical licenses, etc. But that didn’t make enough people beholden to the DNC for their health care.
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m personally holding back the medical care of five democrat voters with my mental failwaves.
For the grand strategy thing to work, we’d have to be dealing with the magical 9 dimensional chess playing Obama of Andrew Sullivan’s wet dreams. I don’t see that guy anywhere around. It’s really just some carnival hack pulling levers behind the curtain.
I can see though, where the conspiracy thing comes from. It doesn’t seem humanly possible that college educated people could be this stupid and incompetent. A quick check of history though, would prove that assumption wrong. So called educated people can and often do engage in very stupid behavior. When such people also acquire power, a lot of other people tend to suffer.
” So called educated people can and often do engage in very stupid behavior.”
Especially when they make the all-too-common assumption that just because they are educated in one field, they know everything and/or can logically figure out everything about any other field.