Anyone have tips for dealing with friends or family who openly display envy like this?
Worst thing I’ve ever said to my brother – “hey, it was your choice to have five kids.”
I believe the Pope is defined as “Infallible”, so, I’m not sure if your
criticism goes anywhere with Catholics.
“I believe the Pope is defined as “Infallible”, so, I’m not sure if your
criticism goes anywhere with Catholics.”
Depends upon which “flavor”of catholic you are talking about. Here in the US the rules are stretched a lot.
O ignorant heathen, the Pope is only infallible when he speaks ex cathedra.
You believe lots of idiotic things.
The Pope is only infallible when reading his remarks from a Teleprompter.
Sheesh, even kids in grade-school Catholic Catechism know that!
As one of the commenters on Althouse’s blog said, greed is a sin as well.
Jesus in the Gospels says that “it is easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.”
Wanting to keep the fruits of your own labor is not “greed,” and it’s not the government’s responsibility to help rich people get into heaven.
Wanting to keep the fruits of your own labor is not “greed,” Well, Jesus was down on any material possession.
it’s not the government’s responsibility to help rich people get into heaven. no, but it is the Pope’s.
I think that even the Pope would agree that having your wealth involuntarily confiscated won’t get you any closer to heaven.
Since he didn’t say anything about involuntarily confiscated, that’s a strawman.
There’s no other way to reduce income inequality that leftists will accept.
I think that’s the core of it Mr. Simberg. You are correct that Leftists will only accept one solution, to the point that you have internalized it, causing you (and many others, who have also seen the mountains of skulls the Left glories in) much pain as you seen the Pope (speaking to all, and the ages, not this particular political moment ) say things that will be used by the Left to murder people here and now.
I think you will find the New Testament and Jesus had quite a lot to say on the subject of respect of temporal powers and taxation….
I’d be happy with trying moderately higher taxes myself, say, back to the marginal tax rates in the 1980s? Was the president then too lefty for you?
Daveon said:
I’d be happy with trying moderately higher taxes myself, say, back to the marginal tax rates in the 1980s
As long as we can also go back treating the three martini lunch, et al. as a tax deduction
Not to mention credit-card interest.
Nonsense. He was down on people who allowed their desire for material possession to obstruct their spiritual duty. Someone who was down on possessions would *never* urge someone to sell their cloak to buy a sword, because a sword is a possession.
Labor is one thing, but fruits of capital?
The bible condemns Usury.
It also condemns homosexuality. Do I hear you lining up to castigate Obama and Pelosi?
I’m not a member of a religious party. Are you?
Democrats don’t make the bible the base of their party.
Republicans do now.
Wrong. Homosexual behavior is condemned. The Catechism urges gays–as it urges single straights–to be chaste. A gay person who is chaste is not committing a sin.
While wanting to keep more of the your own money is considered greedy by liberals, what about their greed for other peoples’ money? If you demand more from rich people for your own benefit, then you’re at least as greedy and the person who wants to keep more of his income. You’re also breaking one of the 10 commandments which prohibits covetness. Liberals buy power by taking from one group and giving to another. It’s the old “He who robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul” line.
Wanting to control where money is given is considered greedy by liberals. The money should be given to the state so that it can be pooled with other money and distributed fairly to the proper causes.
Yes, so that way they get to control where the money is going. Funny how it’s always for their own benefit, isn’t it?
Which is greedier:
1. I want to keep more of the money I earn.
2. I want more of your money so I can benefit by giving it to others.
I vote #2.
Isn’t cherry picking the bible to support your own personal opinion fun.
Yeah- isn’t it amazing how religious Liberals become when taxation comes up? Of course, they’re all Mapplethorpe types at all other times. Lets you know what THEY worship, doesn’t it?
Look in the Bible under “Ten Commandments, The”. It’s right there.
The love of money is the root of all evil. money is a tool which can be used for good or evil.
money is a tool which can be used for good or evil.
That’s the nature of tools. My father was a carpenter. In his hands, a hammer was a tool used to build homes, businesses, churches, etc. In the hands of a thug, a hammer can be a murder weapon. Tools, being inanimate objects, are neither good nor evil. What matters is the intent on the person wielding the tools.
Larry, Bingo! how you use a tool, for helping or harming yourself and others.
Having gone through a few decades of life, I have the feeling that the real reason for this is that it is REALLY hard to be virtuous when everyone is trying to forcibly take your stuff.
So you approve of the government using force of law to encourage Catholic godliness?
Great! I’ll tell you when to report… bring your own bundle of sticks. I’ll just go get the marshmallows…
greed is a sin as well.
Because, of course, if there is any inequality anywhere, it’s the result of greed. “A poor person can suffer from greed” just doesn’t compute. In fact, it makes my head hurt. Stop it.
/Gerrib
Did ANY of you go to Sunday school?
Greed is not a sin……..
Greed can cause one to commit sins……….
you know…like “covet they neighbor’s goods” and stuff like that.
And of course if greed is a sin, adherents of the Social Gospel (aka “the Superstition Trifecta”) such as Admiral Gerrib are more than willing to use the power of the State to punish it. Because in their dogma, coercion is not a sin.
The Pope, like all his predecessors for several centuries, has been defending sin since he was elected. Every day that he fails to excommunicate paedophile priests and denounce them to the police with solid information; every day he fails to do anything about the sadism and brutality in schools run by monks and orphanages run by nuns; every day that he fails to do anything about the gross corruption in the Vatican Bank; every day he decides once again to keep the vast wealth represented by the gold in the Vatican and various cathedrals; every one of those days, he defends sin.
Were I religious, I would think that every single person in the Catholic Church with any executive authority (this excludes simple parish priests, who have little choice in the matter) is going straight to Hell. Most definitely including the Pope.
Anyone have tips for dealing with friends or family who openly display envy like this?
Worst thing I’ve ever said to my brother – “hey, it was your choice to have five kids.”
I believe the Pope is defined as “Infallible”, so, I’m not sure if your
criticism goes anywhere with Catholics.
“I believe the Pope is defined as “Infallible”, so, I’m not sure if your
criticism goes anywhere with Catholics.”
Depends upon which “flavor”of catholic you are talking about. Here in the US the rules are stretched a lot.
O ignorant heathen, the Pope is only infallible when he speaks ex cathedra.
You believe lots of idiotic things.
The Pope is only infallible when reading his remarks from a Teleprompter.
Sheesh, even kids in grade-school Catholic Catechism know that!
As one of the commenters on Althouse’s blog said, greed is a sin as well.
Jesus in the Gospels says that “it is easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.”
Wanting to keep the fruits of your own labor is not “greed,” and it’s not the government’s responsibility to help rich people get into heaven.
Wanting to keep the fruits of your own labor is not “greed,” Well, Jesus was down on any material possession.
it’s not the government’s responsibility to help rich people get into heaven. no, but it is the Pope’s.
I think that even the Pope would agree that having your wealth involuntarily confiscated won’t get you any closer to heaven.
Since he didn’t say anything about involuntarily confiscated, that’s a strawman.
There’s no other way to reduce income inequality that leftists will accept.
I think that’s the core of it Mr. Simberg. You are correct that Leftists will only accept one solution, to the point that you have internalized it, causing you (and many others, who have also seen the mountains of skulls the Left glories in) much pain as you seen the Pope (speaking to all, and the ages, not this particular political moment ) say things that will be used by the Left to murder people here and now.
I think you will find the New Testament and Jesus had quite a lot to say on the subject of respect of temporal powers and taxation….
I’d be happy with trying moderately higher taxes myself, say, back to the marginal tax rates in the 1980s? Was the president then too lefty for you?
Daveon said:
As long as we can also go back treating the three martini lunch, et al. as a tax deduction
Not to mention credit-card interest.
Nonsense. He was down on people who allowed their desire for material possession to obstruct their spiritual duty. Someone who was down on possessions would *never* urge someone to sell their cloak to buy a sword, because a sword is a possession.
Labor is one thing, but fruits of capital?
The bible condemns Usury.
It also condemns homosexuality. Do I hear you lining up to castigate Obama and Pelosi?
I’m not a member of a religious party. Are you?
Democrats don’t make the bible the base of their party.
Republicans do now.
Wrong. Homosexual behavior is condemned. The Catechism urges gays–as it urges single straights–to be chaste. A gay person who is chaste is not committing a sin.
While wanting to keep more of the your own money is considered greedy by liberals, what about their greed for other peoples’ money? If you demand more from rich people for your own benefit, then you’re at least as greedy and the person who wants to keep more of his income. You’re also breaking one of the 10 commandments which prohibits covetness. Liberals buy power by taking from one group and giving to another. It’s the old “He who robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul” line.
Wanting to control where money is given is considered greedy by liberals. The money should be given to the state so that it can be pooled with other money and distributed fairly to the proper causes.
Yes, so that way they get to control where the money is going. Funny how it’s always for their own benefit, isn’t it?
Which is greedier:
1. I want to keep more of the money I earn.
2. I want more of your money so I can benefit by giving it to others.
I vote #2.
Isn’t cherry picking the bible to support your own personal opinion fun.
Yeah- isn’t it amazing how religious Liberals become when taxation comes up? Of course, they’re all Mapplethorpe types at all other times. Lets you know what THEY worship, doesn’t it?
Look in the Bible under “Ten Commandments, The”. It’s right there.
The love of money is the root of all evil. money is a tool which can be used for good or evil.
money is a tool which can be used for good or evil.
That’s the nature of tools. My father was a carpenter. In his hands, a hammer was a tool used to build homes, businesses, churches, etc. In the hands of a thug, a hammer can be a murder weapon. Tools, being inanimate objects, are neither good nor evil. What matters is the intent on the person wielding the tools.
Larry, Bingo! how you use a tool, for helping or harming yourself and others.
Having gone through a few decades of life, I have the feeling that the real reason for this is that it is REALLY hard to be virtuous when everyone is trying to forcibly take your stuff.
So you approve of the government using force of law to encourage Catholic godliness?
Great! I’ll tell you when to report… bring your own bundle of sticks. I’ll just go get the marshmallows…
greed is a sin as well.
Because, of course, if there is any inequality anywhere, it’s the result of greed. “A poor person can suffer from greed” just doesn’t compute. In fact, it makes my head hurt. Stop it.
/Gerrib
Did ANY of you go to Sunday school?
Greed is not a sin……..
Greed can cause one to commit sins……….
you know…like “covet they neighbor’s goods” and stuff like that.
According to the Seven Deadly Sins, greed is a sin. So is envy.
Without envy, where would modern “liberalism” be?
And of course if greed is a sin, adherents of the Social Gospel (aka “the Superstition Trifecta”) such as Admiral Gerrib are more than willing to use the power of the State to punish it. Because in their dogma, coercion is not a sin.
The Pope, like all his predecessors for several centuries, has been defending sin since he was elected. Every day that he fails to excommunicate paedophile priests and denounce them to the police with solid information; every day he fails to do anything about the sadism and brutality in schools run by monks and orphanages run by nuns; every day that he fails to do anything about the gross corruption in the Vatican Bank; every day he decides once again to keep the vast wealth represented by the gold in the Vatican and various cathedrals; every one of those days, he defends sin.
Were I religious, I would think that every single person in the Catholic Church with any executive authority (this excludes simple parish priests, who have little choice in the matter) is going straight to Hell. Most definitely including the Pope.