Do you suppose, that instead of the voters turning out to vote for “Anybody but Mr. Obama” that they voted for “Anybody but Mr. Romney” and held their noses to reelect the President. And yes, I am talking to y’all who believe Mr. Obama can do no wrong and is universally popular and that one would never need to close off one’s nostrils to cast that vote.
Do you suppose the people voted for “Anybody but Romney” were doing this, not because Mr. Romney is a “liberal RINO squish” who supported Obamcare Lite in Massachusetts, but because Mr. Romney was agreeing with the Conservative Party (hard) line about an existential need to cut Social Security, voucherize (Obamacare-ize?) Medicare, and so on?
Do you suppose that in their crowd-sourced wisdom, that the voters gave us a good outcome in the 2012 election, namely, complete and total gridlock, with the stock market and the economy responding positively to this state of affairs? With the Sequester, moderate spending cuts in actuality, being exactly the right response to 1) stabilize the markets and the economy and calm fears of complete runaway spending, 2) rub Liberals’ collective nose in it, and 3) not really harm the level of government services? With Mr. Obama 0-3 on his initiatives post elections, increasingly appearing to be utterly irrelevant?
Do you suppose that sometimes “just muddling through”, and yes, yes, “kicking the can down the road” might, just might be a better strategy and a better political outcome than say, a national version of what happened in some Midwestern States, dunno, that start with a “W” and with an “O” and whose football teams are bitter rivals?
No.
Nobody with a brain does.
“With the Sequester, moderate spending cuts in actuality, being exactly the right response to 1) stabilize the markets and the economy and calm fears of complete runaway spending, 2) rub Liberals’ collective nose in it, and 3) not really harm the level of government services? ”
No because everyone expected the GOP to cave on the sequester and no one expected them to be enacted. I doubt people voted the way they did because they figured Obama would be forced to implement his idea.
Moses supposes his toeses are roses.
There were fewer voters in 2012 than there were in 2008.
I suspect that many of the ones not voting stayed home because they would not vote for a Mormon and would not vote for Obama.
I think it more likely that they either were disappointed in The One but Romney’s team (and the RNC in general) couldn’t be bothered to close the deal; or they didn’t see what was in it for them in a contest between a big government liberal Democrat and Barack Obama.
I think anti-Mormon bigotry played a huge part. Mormonism is still perceived by many as a cult with bizarre beliefs. It does not help that it was not so long ago that the Church did not accept minority members.
But, that is all in the past and, I have to admit, the Mormons I have known have been some of the nicest and salt-of-the-Earth people I have ever met. In some ways, they are almost too good, which I think was also part of Mitt’s problem – he was too perfect, almost robotically so. People do not trust perfection. They take it as a given that the good in a person is probably balanced by the bad, and the better someone appears on the surface, the more likely something really bad is hiding underneath.
I am in no way advocating that view, just noting it as a fact of human nature. Mitt looked good to me, and we sure could benefit from a leader with his demonstrated financial acumen right now.
Well I hope it has finally arrived. Many of us knew all of this before Obama won the election in 2008. I have been bot amazed and aghast at how his adoring crowds overlook behavior that is generally seen in 5 year olds (it’s not my fault – HE did it!!!).
I shake my head at his latest finger pointing (“Gitmo is open because Congress would not allow me to close it”). I wonder how many kneeling, lip-pursed, bespecled, birkenstocked, bow-tied, bum kissers accept that and do not see it for what it is?
Unfortunately, I think the dissenting commenter got it right: with the still powerful major media’s unwavering support, Obama will remain popular with about 1/2 of the electorate.
We’re fatigued. The idiots are not. We can only hope he goes away one day.
“The president’s signature domestic achievement, the Affordable Care Act, is as unpopular as it’s ever been, with only 35 percent approving of it in the most recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey…”.
Is that a true 35% of the total polled? Or is it 35% of the 60% of people KNEW and UNDERSTOOD that Obamacare WAS passed int law, currently here to stay? I ask because in that same poll, 40% or the people answering the poll, thought Obamcare had never been passed, or it had been overturned by the SCOTUS or that Congress had repealed Obamacare.
As ken anthony said the idiots are not tired. I’ll add that they are also not fatigued nor bemused, nor confused. It’s sad how far down we’ve gone as a country.
Do you suppose, that instead of the voters turning out to vote for “Anybody but Mr. Obama” that they voted for “Anybody but Mr. Romney” and held their noses to reelect the President. And yes, I am talking to y’all who believe Mr. Obama can do no wrong and is universally popular and that one would never need to close off one’s nostrils to cast that vote.
Do you suppose the people voted for “Anybody but Romney” were doing this, not because Mr. Romney is a “liberal RINO squish” who supported Obamcare Lite in Massachusetts, but because Mr. Romney was agreeing with the Conservative Party (hard) line about an existential need to cut Social Security, voucherize (Obamacare-ize?) Medicare, and so on?
Do you suppose that in their crowd-sourced wisdom, that the voters gave us a good outcome in the 2012 election, namely, complete and total gridlock, with the stock market and the economy responding positively to this state of affairs? With the Sequester, moderate spending cuts in actuality, being exactly the right response to 1) stabilize the markets and the economy and calm fears of complete runaway spending, 2) rub Liberals’ collective nose in it, and 3) not really harm the level of government services? With Mr. Obama 0-3 on his initiatives post elections, increasingly appearing to be utterly irrelevant?
Do you suppose that sometimes “just muddling through”, and yes, yes, “kicking the can down the road” might, just might be a better strategy and a better political outcome than say, a national version of what happened in some Midwestern States, dunno, that start with a “W” and with an “O” and whose football teams are bitter rivals?
No.
Nobody with a brain does.
“With the Sequester, moderate spending cuts in actuality, being exactly the right response to 1) stabilize the markets and the economy and calm fears of complete runaway spending, 2) rub Liberals’ collective nose in it, and 3) not really harm the level of government services? ”
No because everyone expected the GOP to cave on the sequester and no one expected them to be enacted. I doubt people voted the way they did because they figured Obama would be forced to implement his idea.
Moses supposes his toeses are roses.
There were fewer voters in 2012 than there were in 2008.
I suspect that many of the ones not voting stayed home because they would not vote for a Mormon and would not vote for Obama.
I think it more likely that they either were disappointed in The One but Romney’s team (and the RNC in general) couldn’t be bothered to close the deal; or they didn’t see what was in it for them in a contest between a big government liberal Democrat and Barack Obama.
I think anti-Mormon bigotry played a huge part. Mormonism is still perceived by many as a cult with bizarre beliefs. It does not help that it was not so long ago that the Church did not accept minority members.
But, that is all in the past and, I have to admit, the Mormons I have known have been some of the nicest and salt-of-the-Earth people I have ever met. In some ways, they are almost too good, which I think was also part of Mitt’s problem – he was too perfect, almost robotically so. People do not trust perfection. They take it as a given that the good in a person is probably balanced by the bad, and the better someone appears on the surface, the more likely something really bad is hiding underneath.
I am in no way advocating that view, just noting it as a fact of human nature. Mitt looked good to me, and we sure could benefit from a leader with his demonstrated financial acumen right now.
Well I hope it has finally arrived. Many of us knew all of this before Obama won the election in 2008. I have been bot amazed and aghast at how his adoring crowds overlook behavior that is generally seen in 5 year olds (it’s not my fault – HE did it!!!).
I shake my head at his latest finger pointing (“Gitmo is open because Congress would not allow me to close it”). I wonder how many kneeling, lip-pursed, bespecled, birkenstocked, bow-tied, bum kissers accept that and do not see it for what it is?
Unfortunately, I think the dissenting commenter got it right: with the still powerful major media’s unwavering support, Obama will remain popular with about 1/2 of the electorate.
We’re fatigued. The idiots are not. We can only hope he goes away one day.
“The president’s signature domestic achievement, the Affordable Care Act, is as unpopular as it’s ever been, with only 35 percent approving of it in the most recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey…”.
Is that a true 35% of the total polled? Or is it 35% of the 60% of people KNEW and UNDERSTOOD that Obamacare WAS passed int law, currently here to stay? I ask because in that same poll, 40% or the people answering the poll, thought Obamcare had never been passed, or it had been overturned by the SCOTUS or that Congress had repealed Obamacare.
As ken anthony said the idiots are not tired. I’ll add that they are also not fatigued nor bemused, nor confused. It’s sad how far down we’ve gone as a country.
Bein’ fatigued of the President be raciss.