17 thoughts on “Sports Fanatacism”

  1. This has nothing to do with sports fanaticism. It’s a blanket prohibition on t-shirt logos intended to rid the schools of gang affiliation. (Simply prohibiting gang t-shirts would no doubt be challenged as a violation of the First Amendment.)

    Yahoo Sports is trying to make it a sports issue because, well, that’s what they do.

  2. No it isn’t and no it wouldn’t. According to the article, Oklahoma teams are allowed. According to the law, schools can restrict clothing and speech in the interest of public safety.

    1. According to the law, schools can restrict clothing and speech in the interest of public safety.

      But if the restriction is too narrow, some whiner will threaten to sue claiming it’s not a safety concern but specifically targeted at him. To avoid that, legislators try to make the rules as broad and non-specific as possible.

      To prove my point, here’s Tom Matula, right on time.

        1. No, Tom, unlike you, I’ve read the First Amendment.

          “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech.” It says nothing school boards.

          Government officials will always decide what kids can wear to school as long government runs the schools.

          If you don’t want government telling kids what they can wear, you should be support privatization of schools. Which I’m sure is anathema to a big government “libertarian” like you. 🙂

          1. Edward,

            I guess like most Tea Party Republicans you flunked civics class. The entire point of the Bill of Rights was to protect individuals from the government, including local school boards.

            Why do you think there is no prayer in public schools? Because school boards object? No, because school boards lost in court when they tried to violate the First Amendment and require it for all students.

            Now private schools are a different matter. Since the choice to send your kid to one is voluntary they may require your kid to pray in class, or only wear Oklahoma T-Shirts. If you don’t like it you may take your kid and money elsewhere. You have freedom of choice in the market place.

            But this is not the case in public schools. This is really a clear First Amendment case and I hope the parents sue. I am sure they would have no problem finding a lawyer to take the case, or ACLU.

          2. Why do you think there is no prayer in public schools?

            Because ACLUers like you don’t understand Federalism or believe in the First Ammendment. Contrary to the “civics” you learned from watching Keith Olbermann, the it was intended to protect religion from the Federal government — not vice versa.

            Of course, you all have no problem with using the public schools to impose your religious beliefs. As they have been since the public-school movement was founded by Horace Mann and the Harvard Unitarians in the 19th Century. It’s only other people’s beliefs that are verboten!

            Real libertarians don’t use the power of taxation to limit parental choice and force students into their indoctrination system.

          3. Edward,

            [[[Of course, you all have no problem with using the public schools to impose your religious beliefs.]]]

            You are rambling again… That is exactly what the ban on prayers does, separates Church and State. It doesn’t force anyone’s religion on anyone.

          4. Yes it does, Thomas. It forces unbelief on everyone, including believers.
            And aren’t outr schools ever so much better now that prayer has been forced out? “Condom classes”, drug deals, Pride clubs for teenageer… but no Christianity.

          5. Unitarianism is not a religion, Tom? Or secular humanism, or whatever you’re calling it this week?

            Not to mention radical environmentalism, keynesianism, and all the other secular religions that are preached on a daily basis.

            And how is prohibiting prayer “protecting” free speech?

            Also, no one is required to attend government schools (although those who don’t are economically penalized). Responsible parents homeschool. 🙂

          7. DaveP,

            It puts teaching of Christianity where it should be, the responsibility of the parents and the Church. And protects Christianity from its greatest threat, which is being turned into a defacto state religion as has happened in Europe. When that happens folks just take it for granted and it always declines.

  3. My question, when I read this in the AM, was DID mom know the rule BUT still send Little Johnny to school like this? OR dd they find out after the fact. Personally, I’ve always been in favor of school uniforms. And I know the ‘party line’ is that the ‘poor’ can’t afford uniforms.

    My counter to that is that they can get uniforms instead of buying $200 running shoes and $200 cell phones.

    Some might ask me, “…stereotype much there, Der Schtumpy?”, perhaps, but I’ll quit stereotyping about America’s ‘poor’ when I quit seeing them in Government Offices, at the Free Clinic, at the Church Food Bank, etc, wearing $200 running shoes and playing Angry birds on $200 phones.

  4. Sounds like a clear violation of the first amendment. I hope the parents sue and collect big time to teach the school a lesson.

  5. Hi All,

    Looks like the University of Michigan showed up those folks in Oklahoma…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/cooper-barton-oklahoma-st_n_1826730.html?utm_hp_ref=education

    Cooper Barton, Oklahoma Student In Trouble For Wearing Michigan T-Shirt, Gets Gifts, Invitation To Game

    Posted: 08/24/2012 12:01 am Updated: 08/24/2012 12:02 pm

    [[[“This is, as you will see, is a Michigan football T-shirt that we’re going to send to Cooper,” Brandon said at a press conference Wednesday while holding up a shirt made specially for the boy. “But what I want you to understand about this T-shirt is when you turn it inside-out, you get another Michigan T-shirt. To hell with those people in Oklahoma!”]]]

    [[[District officials have expressed their intent to review the policy to determine if changes should be made. ]]]

    Gee, talk about a no brainer after it made them national laughing stocks…

    1. Score one for the Church of the Holy Pigskin. 🙂

      Clearly another persecuted minority. The parents staged a publicity stunt — they probably called the sports reporter before they sent the kid to school — and you fell for it.

      You have a lot of righteous indignation for someone who claims not to be a football fanatic. But if he wore the Lord’s Prayer, you’d want him banished? So much for free speech.

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