Media Criticism, Political Commentary

Since Carl Pham Abandoned Us

36 Comments

George Turner has become my favorite commenter:

I’ve been amused by all the liberals who keep pining away for OWS to become a real force for social[ist] change. They keep writing articles and posts saying “Let’s hope the OWS leadership is wise enough to do X and Y and then perhaps even Z,” giving advice about how they would run the movement and imagining a scenario in which the OWS folks aren’t a dysfunctional group of morons.

I’m tempted to comment “and if only monkeys would get organized and build a banana farm! It’s nice to dream about a world where chimps were smart and could accomplish anything, with of course you as their leader, but sorry, they’re chimps, OWS is chumps, and neither will accomplish anything more than screeching, flinging poo, raiding piles of food, causing local chaos, and picking lice out of each other’s hair. The most we can hope is that some budding Jane Goodall will study their behavior and explain up-twinkles to the rest of us.”

He should start a blog. Or join mine #EmailMe

36 thoughts on “Since Carl Pham Abandoned Us”

  2. I saw him on another board yesterday. I think it was a link on an article on Fraccing posted at junkscience.

  3. Carl often called liberals poo-flingers too.

    So, here’s a challenge for Rand, George, and all the other great minds here: what’s the most substantial difference between George’s comment and just flinging (metaphorical) poo at the OWS protesters?

    And here’s a lagniappe for all that poo: Rabbi Lerner on the Oakland Protests. I don’t agree with him (his politics are to the left of mine) but if he is a chump, he is only a chump in the way that Jesus was a chump:

    http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/praying-with-our-feet-at-occupy-oakland

    1. If the Rabbi is Jesus, then apparently none of the Occupy Oakland protestors ever sinned. Or is your point, bob, to remind us that they didn’t fling poo; they threw rocks.

    2. If the rabbi is upset at the “1 percent waging class warfare”, he should check his own temple, first. He won’t find them on the streets of Oakland. When the TP marched in DC, they were truly going into enemy territory. But the politics of a rabbi and the wealthiest 1% are indistinguishable – identical platitudes will emerge from the mouths of each for the global elite, the Leftist and the statist are one in the same.

      1. Quite.

        As for Bob, I have to say that I am not sure I could pick even one paragraph of that column that doesn’t strongly imply “Lerner is a chump”. I find the poo flinging comments more accurate and understandable. How can you not burst out laughing if you don’t break your nose face palming at things like a New New Deal providing full employment, rebuilding the U.S. infrastructure and repairing the environment or The tens of thousands of people who streamed through the various parts of the day were there to affirm life, to manifest love. At least Pham and Turner are intending to be funny.

  4. So, here’s a challenge for Rand, George, and all the other great minds here: what’s the most substantial difference between George’s comment and just flinging (metaphorical) poo at the OWS protesters?

    It’s both entertaining and on the mark?

    Did you miss the part where one of them literally defecated on a cop car? Or they shouted at a bank building? Or threw paper airplanes at it? In downtown New York, where the Trade Center used to be?

    1. I think he missed the part were Occupy Oakland torched a warehouse and beat Port employees (obviously the 1% bankers!) going to work.

  5. Well, I hope he comes back. I’ve always enjoyed his comments.

    I know my own blog reading/commenting patterns are haphazard. I’ll spend a lot of time at certain blogs for awhile, then latch onto others, etc.

  7. For calibration purposes:
    Barack Obama, liberal or leftist?
    Jimmy Carter, liberal or leftist?
    Al Gore, liberal or leftist?

      1. Thanks for the link – that was very nice. As I said, I disagree with Lerner, but when I read him, particularly his ideas like “Unequivocally call for an immediate end to the presence of U.S. troops, advisers and private U.S.-based security firms in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, and replace the “war on terror” with a Global Marshall Plan that roots homeland security in a strategy of generosity and concern for the well-being of everyone on the planet”, I’m reminded of the philosophy preached by Jesus.

        1. “but when I read him, particularly his ideas like “Unequivocally call for an immediate end to the presence of U.S. troops, advisers and private U.S.-based security firms in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, and replace the “war on terror” with a Global Marshall Plan that roots homeland security in a strategy of generosity and concern for the well-being of everyone on the planet”, I’m reminded of the philosophy preached by Jesus.”

          … and *I’m* reminded of Tibet and how the Chinese walked in and took it, and how the peace loving Dali Llama begged for foreign troops to come and push them out….the Moriori, of the Chatham Islands, where pacifism led to their almost complete annihilation in 1835….in northern Italy and southern France the Cathars, they were pacifists totally dedicated to non-violence. The Cathars were actually branded heretics, persecuted, and eventually annihilated by the Catholic Church.

          And from your example we have: Luke 22:36: “He said to them, ‘But now, the one who has a purse must take it, and likewise a bag. And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one.’”

          The big mistake pacifists make is to assume that the other side always responds to goodness, reason, generosity and kindness. Pacifists are blind to the fact that there are people out there who will not respond to any of those things…who want what you have and will be happy to slit your throat to take it.

          Generosity and kindness etc are fine things. But if you are smart you will have a bunker buster behind them and the willingness to use it. For some reason that makes more people respond to the kindness and generosity…..

          1. Bizarre. Do you think that passage is really just about actual stones? You really don’t see yourself as flinging metaphorical stones (or poo) at your ideological opponents?

          2. No, I was pretty clear in stating that Occupy Oakland used real stones and Jesus was talking to people about to throw real stones. The only one using methaphors is you, Bob, but that’s probably because you don’t have stones (methaphorically speaking).

          1. A true Scotsman might fling poo, but not all Scotsmen fling poo, and in fact, the overwhelming majority of Scotsmen don’t fling poo.

  8. what’s the most substantial difference

    Ranking them by substantiality takes time Bob. But thanks for the exercise suggestion.

  11. Mr T is awesome. Though, I suspect CP still throws better par-tays (stupid epic off-the-chain complete with ballistics and alcoholic plumbing…)

  12. I too take issue with conflating “liberal” with “leftist”. Liberal used to mean something entirely different, before we let the left have the word. Thomas Paine was a liberal. Ben Franklin was a liberal. The children of Robespierre and Rousseau are mostly socialists or fascists.

  13. Gone for a day and wow, I got a shout out! ^_^

    The last shout out I got was over a Hamlet parody I left at Watts Up With That, about coffee of all things.

    But I haven’t blogged in years. I used to have a personal blog at Bastard Sword and for years was a co-blogger (Sir George) at The Rottweiler (and ran it for a year). I think I got a little burned out on the need to generate fresh, yet funny or thought provoking posts several times a day. I’ve been thinking about starting up again, though. Hrm….. Something to consider.

  14. Has anybody activated the ‘Pham Signal’ on top of city hall yet?

    Has anyone contacted Commisioner Gordon?

Comments are closed.