94 thoughts on “Herman Cain’s Problem”

  1. I can’t decide whether these attacks are coming from the Democrats, or the Republican leadership. The R’s certainly seem to be hell-bent on cramming Romney down our throats whether we want it or not.

    They certainly are political attacks, though. Where were these women a year, two years, five years ago? Am I expected to believe that it’s just an amazing coincidence that they are all coming out of the woodwork now, when he is running for President?

    Neo-neocon had a good post a few days ago, where she recalled Obama’s history in Illinois politics. He had a real talent for getting his opponents off the ballot before the election, one way or another.

    The mysterious source: who’s most afraid of Cain?

    1. As one of those evil Republican Establishment (TM) types who is trying to ram Romney down your throats, I would like to point out it isn’t because we are in love with Mitt, it is because we don’t see the alternative.

      Lots of us were quite ready to ram Mitch Daniels down your throat if he had run, or even Tim Pawlenty until he imploded.  Heck, I don’t remember much objection from us when Perry first appeared either, until of course he passive aggresivelly decided he thought you were all heartless.

      We, I mean us GOP establishment types just want to win, we are good party men and honestly Cain won’t win, especially now, Bachman scares the moderates, Gingrich has so much baggage he practically needs an entire Greek Shipping line to carry it, and I need hardly comment on the rest of the field who either lack any serious following, Santorum, are unacceptable to conservatives, Ron Paul, or a magic combo of the two, fill in the blank here.

      I just don’t see where this magic conservative candidate is, and any Republican would be better than four more years of Obama.

      I sm sorry, but some of us are conservatives because we rationally weighed our options and decided that it was the least bad course, and we don’t want to lose because y’all are in love with a guy who wants a nationsl sales tax.

        1. If you actually can’t see the difference between Mitt Romney and Obama, I can’t help you, but I will try.

          Do you think anyone Romney would nominate to the Supreme Court wouldn’t be at least mildly more conservative than who Obama would pick?

          Do you really think Romney would have handed GM over to the UAW the way Obama would?

          Do you actually think Romney, no matter how much he might channel Nelson Rockefeller, would be contemplating blocking Keystone XL?

          1. If you actually can’t see the difference…

            I can, but that’s not what I said. If you cannot read for comprehension, I can’t help you.

    2. I can’t decide whether these attacks are coming from the Democrats, or the Republican leadership.

      There’s a difference?

      Sorry, but any political candidate that fails to please the ruling elite will get this treatment. No candidate that could possibly get us out of this mess will please the ruling elite, so any candidate that could possibly get us out of this mess will be charged with hate crimes and suchlike.

  3. Follow the motive. Who has the most to gain if Mr. Cain drops out? Clearly its Gov. Perry… By contrast both Gov. Romney and President Obama would benefit if he stays in the race.

  4. He’s looking very Clintonian to me

    Maybe it’s just nostalgia, but I would take Clinton over the last two clowns any day. Once he got checked in 1994, we got a balanced budget at the price of a personal scandal or two. I mean sure, he was a total empty suit on the foreign policy front and he was an enabler for 9/11, so I wouldn’t ask for a total redux – but if you’re willing to do what it takes to reduce this deficit, you’ll get my vote.

    My point is, I’m not electing a president to date my sister. The only way any of this changes my opinion of the man is if it becomes obvious that he threatened someone’s career over sex. And even then. It sucks for that person, but I’m not voting for a president so several hundred White House staffers can have a fair boss either.

  5. This is absurd. So Cain asks politely how he can contact a lady and follow up providing her information that the she requested. This is considered inappropriate by a third party, I guess because he’s a man and the other person a woman, and they are too prude to think the two can behave themselves left alone. So they offer to chaperon and nothing happens. And this is now questionable behavior?

    These accusations really are ridiculous when you start reading through them. The point is to make him look like Clinton, but let me know when he’s accused of something more exciting then commenting on a person’s appearance or asking if he can contact a person for a business discussion.

    1. Leland, regardless of what really happened, he is accused of much more than than you appear to think he is accused of.

      “[Cain] put his hand on my leg, under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. I was very, very surprised and very shocked. I said, ‘What are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend, this isn’t what I came here for.’ He said, ‘You want a job, right?'” said Bialek.

      —

      I think Cain isn’t lying. I think he truly believes what he is saying, although given the multiple payouts by the NRA and given the two (so far) non-anonymous accusers, I bet what he is said in today’s press conference is completely untrue. In other words, I’m guessing that he is delusional rather than a knowing liar.

      1. On the other hand, there’s apparently a photo of Bialek hugging Cain at a campaign rally last month. Something definitely doesn’t add up.

        1. She addressed that recent meeting at her press conference. In contrast, at his press conference today, Cain said he had no idea who Bialek was – didn’t remember her at all.

          1. That’s just as suspicious. Nobody in the local tea parties ever heard of her before yesterday, and she was with WGN out of Chicago. Chicago is so rife with backroom deals, extortion, corruption, organized crime, and blackmail that I could believe almost anything about her motives and the tense meeting.

          2. Eh. One of the local tea party groups here in the Chicago suburbs counts me as a member. They think I signed up. Why do they think this? I was part of a citizen’s group to increase transparency in our local government, and one of the members signed us all up as members in a local tea party group, even though the majority of us are Democrats. Their email indicates that they think I’ve attended their meetings. I can assure you it was a simple mix up with their records – it was not due to the backroom deals, extortion, corruption, organized crime, or blackmail that I constantly have to dodge on my way to the grocery store. But if a reporter interviewed one of the leaders about me, I bet they’d say “Oh yeah, he comes to our meetings.”

          3. I think you’re a bit premature to be focusing on government transparency. Shouldn’t you instead attack the fundamentals, like stopping the government from sinking bodies in the river, which if nothing else is a pollution hazard. Also, when they do kill somebody and dump the body in the river, the deceased person should probably stop voting in subsequent elections.

            Then I’d launch a study to figure out why being an Illinois politician is more predictive of future incarceration than schizophrenia, anti-social behavioral disorder (psychopathy), alcoholism, drug abuse, and being a member of the Manson family.

            Until those problems are fixed, getting transparency in a Chicago government would be about as pleasant as an open casket funeral for an Ebola victim who died in a plane crash. Do you really want to see the bodies?

        3. George,

          About that run in at a Tea Party event, this is the only evidence I’ve seen of a possible lie on Cain’s part. He claimed to have first seen Bailek on TV with Gloria Allred. Now it comes out he was confronted by Bailek in Chicago.

          What’s interesting is for a person claiming sexual harrassment from years ago, why did she hug him? And note, the observer relating the story mentions he didn’t hug back. If the point of the encounter was for Bailek to address Cain for his past wrong doings, why give him a hug? If he supposedly sexually harrassed you, and you thought that was wrong, why the overt sign of affection?

          I agree with you, George, it doesn’t add up.

          1. What is the evidence of that the hug even happened? George says there is a photo. Is the photo available on the web? If not, who is claiming there was a hug?

          2. That’s what I heard mentioned on the radio yesterday, that she was in a photo hugging Cain at the rally, which I guess is the first way they identified her as actually having been there. But like all photos on the radio, it was lacking in detail.

          4. So since she hugged him, as a third person observer claimed, then isn’t that sexual harrassment? And this wasn’t 14 years ago mind you, she assaulted him just weeks ago.

          5. Given his schedule over the past few months, how many people do you suppose Cain has talked to in that time? Quite likely, it’s in the thousands. Do you think you would remember everyone you talked to if you were in the same situation. After a while, it all becomes a blur.

          6. Larry,

            I completely agree, but it does suggest his memory is incorrect whether intentional or unintentional. It is enough of a gotcha to give the story legs for a few more days. However, by Oct 1st, Cain should of had someone in his campaign close enough to him to note the encounter and remember it for him. Not always the case, but certainly something he should make happen for the future.

      2. I think at this stage judgment is premature. But since everyone is tendering their gut feelings, here’s mine: I thought Sharon Bialek was reading from a script she had worked out with Gloria Allred. I thought Herman Cain was speaking from his heart. So I tend to believe him and not her. Astoundingly, this opinion lines up with my political inclinations, too. Fancy that.

        The barrage of accusations, most of them vaporous in nature, raises suspicions of coordinated action. It took years for the Clintonian bimbos to get their stories heard. Here, in a week a so, we have gone from “inappropriate gestures” to “reached for my genitals” (what does that mean, BTW?) to inappropriate dinner invitations. The nation is shocked — shocked! — that powerful men either (a) are attracted to beautiful gold-diggers, or (b) attract powerful, shadowy enemies. Take your pick.

      3. If this accusation from someone who was not an employee of Cain disqualifies him from office then what about OWS and all the actual rapes taking place?

      4. Come on, what woman responds during a sexual assualt with “you know I have a boyfriend”

        she is a lying goldigger

    2. For whatever it is worth, Bialek goes to tea party rallies.

      And I don’t think this is a Democratic plot: If Cain becomes the nominee, I would really really enjoy seeing Obama’s grin when he first hears the news.

      1. Obama might as well get his grins where he can. We are double-dipping next year and he is going to be routed regardless of who the nominee is. Cain will weaken his core base, the black population too.

      2. “I would really really enjoy seeing Obama’s grin when he first hears the news.”

        Yeah, libs think Romney is the most competitive opponent because they see him as reasonable and smart. I.e., he thinks the way they do. But, they do not consider Romney the most dangerous candidate, because it’s very nearly a win-win proposition.

        What they don’t get is that the rest of the country does not see things through their eyes. Carter’s people were jumping for joy when Reagan got his party’s nomination, too.

          2. Nah, I think he might lose to Romney. (What a surprise that I disagree with redstate.com). He could even lose to Gingrich, if people stop and listen to what Gingrich has to say. That’s why I am rooting for Cain to put this thing behind him and go on to win the nomination!

  8. I’m with Bart.

    It just seems like it came up AFTER Cain started looking viable. Clinton had this kind of crap following him forever, it didn’t start on the WH campaign trail, or after he was in D.C. Cain’s accusers sprang from the ground over night.

    This afternoon I heard a talking head say that it’s back firing because most people don’t believe it. Or at least, they aren’t changing any minds. And he went on, IF it’s being trumped up at this level, overnight, just what is it he wants to do that scares people so badly? Could it be that he wants to do things that go against the RINO stuff the McCains and Romney’s want to do?

    That would be most everyone in and around the Tea Party including any true Conservatives and Libertarians.

    Personally I liked Cain before all this started. I like him even better since it started, because he shows, what most people would show if they were falsely accused. I disliked Clinton for similar reasons. Clinton never looked innocent, he always looked like a kid with his…hand…in the cookie jar.

    Cain shows what any of us would show, righteous indignation tinged with a large dollop of being just plain, old fashioned, pissed off!

  9. I honestly don’t know if Cain did or didn’t do what he’s accused of, but what I do know is that he is in virtually an impossible position of proving the allegations false if this is indeed a smear job.

    I’ve seen it argued that if the accusations from 1997 were false, Cain should easily be able to prove it with some kind of paper trail. I have to call BS. There is no way I could prove what I did on a day-to-day basis 14 years ago when at the time I was trying to get my business started. I interviewed dozens of candidates for job openings at many different venues (I didn’t have an office yet). I don’t remember a specific single name, face or the specific circumstance for each interview. Why should I? In most cases the candidates didn’t fit the needs of the positions I was filling, we shook hands and that was it. It was nothing remarkable and memories fade. If today a candidate I interviewed accused me of doing something immoral or unethical in those interviews, how could I possibly defend myself? Any records I have stayed with the company which has since gone through three separate mergers and trivial personal records I may have from the time (ie. credit card and restaurant receipts) were disposed of years ago.

    Cain is being placed into a position that is almost impossible to defend against by powerful interests and a rabid media looking to take him down. I sincerely hope reasonable people see what is going on and that a good man is indeed being lynched before our eyes for allegations, that even if true, no way merit the type of treatment he is receiving.

    But, I guess it all doesn’t matter. Once again we’ll let the media tell us which candidates are acceptable and we’ll follow them to defeat – either losing the election outright or by electing a President who will continue to maintain the corrupt status quo to our own destruction.

    1. I honestly don’t know if Cain did or didn’t do what he’s accused of, but what I do know is that he is in virtually an impossible position of proving the allegations false if this is indeed a smear job.

      I’m one of those people who still believe in the quaint notion that a person is considered innocent until proven guilty and that the burden of proof is on the claimant, not the defendent. Naive, I know. For men, it hasn’t been that way for a long time. Any woman or child can make a claim against any man and he’s automatically considered guilty. Furthermore, no amount of proof will undo the claims against him. Even if the accuser recants the claims, the man will still be tarred as an accused sex criminal, sexual harasser, abuser, etc. Because we all no that no woman or child has ever told a lie, especially when money or politics is a factor, right?

      The IRS only requires people to keep tax records for 7 years. Some packrats hold their receipts and records longer but that’s probably the exception, not the norm.

      1. I am one of those cynics who thinks that non ideologically committed voters are very prone to vote based on gut feelings, which are often informed by sleazy innuendo.

        I am also one of those cynics who would rather not lose an election, because I want to be absolutely fair to some one to the detriment of my side winning.  I guess it is one of the unpleasant things about mass party politics that winning the election is the first step to any program.  

    2. I honestly don’t know if Cain did or didn’t do what he’s accused of, but what I do know is that he is in virtually an impossible position of proving the allegations false if this is indeed a smear job.

      At this point, it does not matter. A generic Gloria Allred Smear Campaign(tm) is worse than anything Cain is accused of doing. We have a system of due process — use it or GTFO. (Must I drag out this again?) Gloria’s side-show only makes me want to campaign for man.

      1. I’m being serious. “He grabbed my genitals” isn’t how a woman would say it. For one thing, women don’t have genitals you can “grab.” They can be groped and poked etc, but if she has anything to “grab” then either she has to see a doctor or we’re dealing with a transvestite. Do I really have to explain this to you?

        It just sounds wrong. Scripted, and not very well. All they had to do was have her say something normal like “he put his hand up my skirt and groped me” or “tried to put his fingers inside me” and this wouldn’t even have stood out. It’s like they don’t even care — and they don’t; they know that they can say anything they want and Americans will turn in droves away from the target because we’re afraid of getting any dirt on us.

        One more thing: this encounter she’s describing sounds a leetle too intimate, if it happened, to be just a sudden surprise!harrassment thing. It sounds more like they were cuddled up close already, and Cain went caveman on her because that’s what men do sometimes when women are cuddling up to them, and she changed her mind because woman do that. It’s still not a nice scenario, but it does away with the “innocent victim of outraged virtue” act regarding this woman that I can’t believe people are falling for. And if you must know, I’m not really a fan of that whole “women can say no right up until the very moment the man’s peepee is about to enter her love cave and if the man doesn’t listen he’s a rapist” directive. Women should quit putting themselves in situations like this. You can be an independent, free person who is in charge of your own life, or a fragile little potential victim who has to be protected from any harm or discomfort. Pick one.

        1. Thank you for pointing this out. When I heard the phrase “He reached for my genitals…”, I was like, “Really, genitals? Women say that?” I mean I know technically that is what they are called but I’ve never heard a women say, “Yea I’m having issues with my genitals today…” Probably because “warts” is the next word that pops into people’s heads.

          I think Cain should have just got up there for his press conference and said, “Lady, if you keep your genitals out of my business then I’ll keep my business out of yours.” Then strutted off the camera like Mr. Jefferson.

        2. Andrea, for your sake, for everyone’s sake, read what Sharon Bialek had to say. She told the whole story. It wasn’t cuddling, the “intimacy” occurred because they were seated next to each other in a car. Read the whole story.

          For your convenience, here is the transcript:
          http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/?news=Woman-Accuses-Cain-of-Sexual-Harassment
          And video is available too, if you think you discern some non-verbal information.

          It certainly was scripted. It is hard to talk about “genitals” in public. When I had to describe a spreading yeast infection in my then-infant daughter on the phone with the pediatrician, I found it a bit embarrassing to describe exactly where the infection was, so I rehearsed what I was going to say, and I used overly technical words that I wouldn’t use otherwise. The pediatrician was a completely sympathetic audience — a press conference would be so much worse.

          1. So he just up and grabbed her out of nowhere, Bob? Sorry, but I remain skeptical.

            Also, unless you’ve been keeping something from us, you’re a man. My point wasn’t that “talking about a girl’s parts in public is embarrassing,” it is that a woman would not refer to the actions of a man groping inside her undies as “he grabbed my genitals.” There. Is. Nothing. To. Grab. Pinch? Yes. Grab? No.

          3. No. I’m going to spare everyone the medical details, but you are definitely wrong about that. It depends on the source, and it can spread, and it can get alarming (at least to a new parent). Your wife is a nurse, right? Ask her. My daughter was easily treated, and my wife and I were very relieved.

        3. “Women should quit putting themselves in situations like this. ”

          OMG, Andrea, you’re such a sexist pig for saying this!

    2. I thought the same thing. Well, actually I thought “He reached for her, um, dangly bits? Did he know she was transgendered?”

  11. Maybe it’s just nostalgia, but I would take Clinton over the last two clowns any day.

    Rather than hint that you want to violently disarm all gun owners, why don’t you just come out and say it?

    Oh, I know. It’s because you’re a coward. Just like your fellow draft dodger Clinton. And the rest of your cowardly draft dodging party, the Demontargets.

  12. Isn’t sexual harassment a legal matter? Isn’t that what’s relevant here? It seems to me that if neither side has to take an oath, then all of them could be lying. What would be the consequence of lying now? None that I could see.

    On the other hand, if you lie under oath, you could go to jail. Since it is out of the jurisdiction of the law, since it is beyond the statute of limitations, the whole matter should be moot.

    The only other issue is moral. If Cain is a liar, it will show up elsewhere, don’t you think? I don’t think this should be show stopper for Cain. Not even close.

  13. This whole thing reminds me of the campaign against Justice Thomas.

    The similarities are unsettling.

    Conservative African-American man? Can’t use the race card. Trot out the sexual harassment one.

    2. I think it’s a worse form of the same card. So far this has amounted to “That there black buck is after our white womens! Let’s get ‘im!”

  14. And another one bites the dust in this AP story that’s the top of Drudge.

    His first accuser filed a harrassment claim against her next bosses (in government) because she got a funny e-mail about how men and women are like computers. She demanded she be allowed to work from home (which she’d already demanded twice before), get a 5 figure raise, a promotion, a Harvard fellowship, and she retained the same lawyer she used in the claim against Cain.

    1. I am shocked, shocked to discover that this woman is a serial user of sexual harassment laws and the Politically Correct climate. What is this world coming to?

      1. And Bialek, the woman with genitals, lives in David Axelrod’s building. This is getting pretty silly.

        1. Say, doesn’t Axelrod also have genitals? When’s his presser? He can read the same script! Lorne Michaels, are you reading this?

    2. You mean women will titillate men into getting what they want with little to nothing else to show for it. You don’t say?

  15. I have no idea who organized the attack. But both parties have good reason to eliminate Cain. He is the first person to propose a Tax plan, albeit flawed that people understand, and would support. However it would erode so much power from Washington if this, or any similar tax code were to be implemented that neither party can allow it to take hold.

    1. Forget the elimination of Cain.

      Anyone hearing much press on Eric Holder’s little chat with Congress about Fast and Furious?

      Two birds, one stone, and all that…

      1. I understand where you’re coming from, but I resent the fact that I’m considered a chickenhawk even though I served my country, simply because I’m a registered Republican and haven’t apologized for my service. Meanwhile Harry Reid, who dodged the draft, is considered a war hero by most people.

        When people call you a teabagger, it’s much like being called a nigger. In both cases there are two messages being sent: one, that you’re stupid and inferior; but two, that you are too much a coward to challenge the statement.

        And in both cases the damage is serious. In the Old South, black women actually preferred white men because they were programmed to think of them as superior to their own men. Today, you read about some Republican woman talking in a somewhat ironic tone about her disagreements with her Democrat boyfriend. To which I say: sorry, sister. I refuse to sympathize with you when you’re spreading your legs for my enemies. (That’s aimed at the hypothetical woman, not you, Andrea).

          1. Read my comment below to get a fuller perspective on what I’m saying. I’m going out of my way to be reasonable here. I haven’t once fantasized about ways to off Bill Maher. I really am trying hard to convey where it is I’m coming from.

          2. Thanks but I’m not really interested. For one thing, the stuff you’re saying is hardly relevant to the subject of this post (putting “Republican” in there a lot doesn’t count) and it’s rude to fill Rand’s comments with your own obsessions. I’ll help you out: the subject is Herman Cain and the allegations made against him. There’s nothing in there about draft dodging or the military, or how mean Democrats are being to Republicans in general. As other commenters here have pointed out, lots of Republicans would like Cain to go away too. This is a bipartisan attack.

    2. Ok, you’ve made me curious. If Democrats are draft dodgers, then I have some questions. What about female Democrats? What about male Democrats who are younger than 55? What about Democrats who signed up for service before they were drafted? What about Democrats who were drafted and dutifully showed up to serve? Are Democrats in these groups also draft dodgers, in your view?

        1. Before any poking, I thought I would grab the waistband of his underwear and… …no wait, that’s concerning the other topic.

          (Ken: that was a joke for Andrea. I do not want to hurt you.)

          1. My only point is that in an unwanted sexual advance/assault, there are gender-neutral things to grab.

            Hey, wait, I just went back and looked at the quote: ““[Cain] put his hand on my leg, under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch.”

            So, Andrea, according to Cain’s accuser, he wasn’t “grabbing” for her private parts – he was “reaching for” them. I hope this satisfies your internal linguistic BS detector.

          2. “Reaching” for them sounds even weirder. Just how long was her skirt?

            Also it sounds kind of sad. You know — reaching, yearning, never attaining the desired goal…

  17. To expound upon what I was saying to Andrea, Republicans generally hate thinking of themselves as victims. The problem is that we are victims. We are second-class citizens, despised by most people. Every good thing we do is twisted against us. Every relationship we have has the Democrats hanging over it like the sword of Damocles–when I go out with a woman, I have to keep my eyes peeled for Democrats who can come out of the blue and, with one well-placed insult, make my girlfriend lose respect for me. We are denied employment if we don’t shut up about our deep beliefs. When we don’t serve in the military, we are called chickenhawks, but when we do, we’re told that Democrats are much braver because they “stuck it to the man” by dodging the draft and taking the coward’s way out.

    The fact is that there are two injustices being done here. The most obvious one is that Republicans, who serve in the military and work hard at real man’s jobs their whole lives are treated as cowards and denied basic human rights. The less obvious one is that Democrats, who never worked or served their nation, are not treated as cowards and denied basic human rights.

    We Republicans are treated as if we’re inferior, when in fact we are superior.

    Republicans need to learn to hate, the way the privileged Democrats do. If we learn to hate them, we will be able to fight them like men and gain our place as men.

  18. Andrea, I realize that it isn’t exactly the subject, but it certainly is related. And the fact is that there’s an elephant in the room: that Republicans, who are patriots who put their lives on the line for their nation, are treated much like the Jews were in Nazi Germany, while the Democrats, who evaded the draft, are without want and live in endless happiness and group sex.

    We need a serious discussion about how to end the misery of Republicans and punish the Democrats for living the high life on our backs.

    1. “Republicans, who are patriots who put their lives on the line for their nation, are treated much like the Jews were in Nazi Germany”

      Oh, so that’s why I’ve been seeing all those lines of people with big red “R’s” on their coats being herded onto trains.

      No really, the meds you’re on are good this time.

  19. “Either there is a Democrat/Perry conspiracy against him with multiple lying women, or he’s a pathological liar.

    I don’t know which it is, but he’s looking very Clintonian to me.”

    Meaning Cain like Clinton, is pathological liar, has many women he has screwed, and there a conspiracy against him? [in Cain’s case the vast left conspiracy].
    If a conspiracy one can only imagine this stuff is the small potatoes, later we get women with his children, various rapes, and sleeping with boys.
    And this stuff now is simply made to help Cain- make him center of attention.
    Basically the show now is bringing forth some crazy women which can be easily dismissed, then one brings up the good stuff. The stuff which can actually stick. With a solid case, one make the earlier ones seem more credible- maybe they weren’t as crazy as they sounded, etc.
    And Cain has even already said he would take lie detector test.

    If there isn’t something better than what we seen so far, one can only see this as attempt to help Cain.

  20. I do not want Cain to get the nomination and I didn’t want that before all this harassment stuff.

    And in fact I’ve never been convinced Cain is really running.

    But I want him to fight these accusations thoroughly and aggressively…if he is really innocent.

    Smears have taken down a lot of people’s reputations and the only way to stop it is to make the cost of smearing-with-lies larger than the benefit. If Cain is innocent as he says he should go after these people and waste them financially. Destruction of their reputations will follow. This is really the only way to stop this.

  21. I am withholding my decision in this trial by media until there are several Taiwanese animations that we can examine.

    Was Cain reaching toward her “genital” or “genitals” and was he using his right hand or his left hand? How big was the car and who was driving?

    What does it mean for our society when a man takes a woman who is not his co-worker out to dinner, tries to make out with her in his car afterwards and stops when she says no is to be considered a sexual harasser?

    Even if everything she said was true what does that mean for the future of hordes of young men and women trying to get their rocks off?

    1. Maybe it means have a romantic relationship with mutual attraction first. Or at least, lean in for a first kiss before initiating oral sex and fingering…

      1. How is unwanted kissing not sexual harassment?

        Even if the events transpired in the woman’s script, you think the first thing Cain did was go straight for her vagina with his left hand while pushing her head toward his crotch with his right hand all from the driver’s side of the car?

        How do we know that there was not a romantic relationship with mutual attraction? How do we know anything happened at all?

  22. I haven’t chosen a favorite candidate, but I couldn’t care less what these women say about Herman Cain. If any of them were mentally or physically harmed by what they claim took place, they either should have filed suit or kept their pie holes shut after accepting a settlement.

    When there’s proof that an employee has drowned as a result of Cain’s drunkenness, that he’s seduced a 22 year-old in the workplace, committed rape, fathered a child outside wedlock, diverted company funds to finance an extravagant or illegal lifestyle, or provided the impetus for anyone’s treatment by a mental health professional, I’ll start paying attention.

    1. Maybe if the car was a limo, or a Cadillac Eldorado. Not a van or suv though — those kinds of vehicles might look big, but inside they’re like sardine cans with bucket seats.

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