Such is the state of Obama’s America that a dismaying number of people think that banning ATMs would be good for the economy. It’s the new Luddism, led by the Ignoramus-in-Chief.
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Such is the state of Obama’s America that a dismaying number of people think that banning ATMs would be good for the economy. It’s the new Luddism, led by the Ignoramus-in-Chief.
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[[[Other’s wanted to see America return to a simpler time when we all got our money from our friendly neighborhood banker who knew your name, smiled at you and gave little Billy a lollipop after which you could hop in your horse drawn carriage and return to your candle lit home.]]]
I how many who signed thought it was a part of the Tea Party’s plan for restoring America to the fiscal responsibility of the “good old days”.
Why stop there? Let’s ban money. Root of all evil. No more nasssty banks and worrying about interest rates.
Or follow Ron Paul’s idea of returning to gold and silver money. Getting rid of paper money will solve the ATM “problem” for sure 🙂
Ron Paul doesn’t propose getting rid of paper money — he just wants to back it with metal, as it used to be.
Yes, until that radical liberal president, Richard Nixon, did away with it.
I used to chat with an Estonian, the son of one of their MP’s, and he said that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Estonia skipped the stage of brick and mortar bank buildings and just installed ATMs everywhere. Their economy boomed and they didn’t have to waste money on redundant buildings whose main purpose is to attract customers and instill confidence.
Will Obama want us going back to a phone system of copper land-lines and pulse dialing in a world of iPhones and Blackberries?
Actually, Richard “We’re all Keynesians now” Nixon was something of a socialist. He was the one who instituted wage and price controls.
Why stop at ATMs? Think of all the ditch digging jobs you could open up by banning heavy equipment like backhoes. Not only that, but you could create jobs for Democrat overseers for those manual laborers (answer to “Massa” like the old days) to make sure those guys didn’t slack off. While we’re at it, let’s ban computerized accounting and go back to the days of paper ledgers. If it was good enough for Grandpa, it should be good enough for us.
I favor backing paper money with French kisses from Scarlett Johansson. (And shouldn’t it be Johansdottir, anyway?) Just as good as gold at stabilizing the money supply and preventing central bankers’ tricks, since the supply is finite. But a lot more fun to redeem.
Getting rid of ATM’s? Hah! Trouble me not with your piddling half-measures. If you really want to stimulate the economy, we need to get rid of direct dial on the telephone network and return to using operators. How many telephone operators do you think today’s call volume would employ?
[[[Actually, Richard “We’re all Keynesians now” Nixon was something of a socialist.]]]
Funny, that is what Robert Welch argued as well 🙂
“Funny, that is what Robert Welch argued as well”
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*points* “Hey look the Maiz God has been reborn!!”
“how many who signed thought it was a part of the Tea Party’s plan for restoring America to the fiscal responsibility of the “good old days”.”
yea because the tea party is all about centralized control of the economy. you proggs are industrial stupid.
Funny, that is what Robert Welch argued as well
What’s your point?
Is everything that Robert Welch said wrong by definition? He was right about the UN, too.
I how many who signed thought it was a part of the Tea Party’s plan for restoring America to the fiscal responsibility of the “good old days”.
Why should they assume that? Whenever I’m accosted on the streets of downtown Denver, if it’s not a panhandler looking for “spare change”, it’s someone with a clipboard working for some Left-wing Progressive cause. And they always open their pitch with “So you support …”?
You “Progressives” really do need to stop projecting your behaviors on everyone else. Or at least come up with better strawmen.
The best part of the video was the old lady who said with a scowl on her face, “You realize how stupid this is.”
George, an old Estonian saying for you-
“Do you know why Estonians water their gardens with motor oil?”
“To keep their guns from rusting.”
The good news is those who cling to modern weaponry will ultimately have the Luddites available as a free source of manual labor to rebuild society as they see fit.
Currency should be backed by kilowatts.
Rand,
Thanks for illustrating the roots of Tea Party thinking.
Newrouter,
[[[yea because the tea party is all about centralized control of the economy. you proggs are industrial stupid.]]]
Strikes me that getting rid of ATMs in favor of local banks would be a step in that direction.
“Strikes me that getting rid of ATMs in favor of local banks would be a step in that direction.”
Local banks don’t have atms?
Thanks for illustrating the roots of Tea Party thinking.
By what moronic illogic would you conclude that I did that?
The simplest questions for these anti-ATM maroons would be,
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“…so you think the banks should have an actual PERSON, sitting here, or out in the parking lot, in a secure box, with a box load of cash?”
“…sit there with a computer terminals for your inquiries, transfers, car payments, advances from your credit cards and such? That they do all the typing, and printing the tickets?”
“…AND they’ll be able to supply ALL these services, at ALL the places with an ATM you can access now, and do it ALL for you current $2 or $3 service fee? Are you mental!!!”
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Anyone who is over about 40 should be able to remember the world sans ATMs. It was quite different. Cash access wise anyway. And banking in any other form was a Mon – Fri, 9 to 5 thing.
You know, if we prevented that insidious foreign competitor from flooding the U.S. market with cheap sources of light, there would be many more jobs created in American industries, particularly the all-important
dimgreen light bulb industry.(I’m sure blotting out the sun is next on the president’s economic agenda: he’s sure blotted out everything else bright and cheerful.)
Screw ATMs.
We desperately need to bring back the in-every-lot “Fotomarts”, and thus film cameras. There’s a job. And eliminate EZPass, the unions are still fighting like the dickens to prevent the evil RFID toll taking – that’s an up-to-$60k gig. Interbank electronic funds transfer? Banned – because we need the cash moving around the interstate in amounts that make robbing the cars worthwhile.
Oh! And closed-circuit security. b.a.n.n.e.d. Completely. Everywhere. We desperately need the rent-a-cops.
/Joke, just for Thomas.
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Jobs, jobs, jobs.
Productivity? Why would you want to make fewer jobs?
Profit is the evil taking by the rich.
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Seriously, profit is what enables and attracts the wealthy to offer jobs, and productivity is needed for profit. This open contempt by theftists for productivity and profit tells me that at best they are ignorant, if they even care that they might be bleeding the source of their income dry.
Time to salt the leaches.
People still use those ancient things?
A few times per year I’ll use an ATM and every time I wonder if this is the time my card will be skimmed by unauthorized hardware installed on an unguarded machine.
Do you have self service checkouts at the supermarket yet or do you still stand in line for a minimum wage tortoise to operate a computer for you? Oh wait, this is the country where some people still pay bills by mailing checks, and are regularly fooled by counterfeit bills made on home printers and photocopiers.
How do I buy things without cash? EFTPOS. When is the rest of the world going to catch up? You can even get cash out. You can even use it out your car window when driving through fast food places. Some of them, like McDonalds, accept credit cards without pin or signature for purchases under $50.
Speaking of which, wireless RFID smart cards from big names like Visa are finally catching on. For any purchase under $100 you just wave your card in front of the scanner. They’re using peer pressure ads like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7YzDvKezg to encourage adoption.
The systems I use on a daily basis to make purchases seem primitive, insecure, and dangerous to my privacy, but cash and paper checks are even more primitive (paper money dating back to the ancient chinese), insecure (gimme your wallet!), and impractical (no, I will not mail you a check).
I favor backing paper money with French kisses from Scarlett Johansson.
That tongue has been down Sean Penn’s throat; are you sure that’s what you want to back our currency?
Well Matula, I have now seen something stupider than the idea to ban ATMs itself.
Trent, I deliberately killed the RFID chip on the last 2 bank cards I got with them. The RFID tech in common use is grossly insecure, and the magnetic strip still on the cards offers the same info at the point of sale.
Yeah, reliable anonymous cash is primitive. So is fire and the wheel.
Rand,
I am just pointing out what the John Birch Society campaigned for in 1959 has a striking similarity to the Tea Party’s core talking points today. They even used the Boston Tea Party as a symbol.
http://www.jbs.org/forum/view-postlist/forum-1-water-cooler/topic-800-1959-the-john-birch-society-the-original-tea-party-movement
1. Against high taxes – check
2. Against inflation and fiat money – check
3. Against the raising national – check
4. Against government competition with private enterprise – check
5. Against wasteful government spending – check
6. Against foreign aid to communist countries – hmmm, replace communist with socialist and I would say that is a check as well.
So the big question for those interested in the future of the Republic is just where does the Tea Party movement and the John Birch Society part ways in their campaign points? Anyone care to enlighten us traditional Republicans?
Isn’t “economic ignorati” pretty much a synonym for “Obama supporters”?
“Well Matula, I have now seen something stupider than the idea to ban ATMs itself.” Yes, McGeehee, if you’re looking for someone to set the bar on dumb, the every-reliable Matula is your guy.
Gee, it looks like Tea Party followers even use the same tactics the John Birch Society was known for of personally attacking those daring to ask questions.
…where does the Tea Party movement and the John Birch Society part ways in their campaign points? Anyone care to enlighten us traditional Republicans?
I haven’t seen any of them complain about fluoride.
And just what is the problem that you “traditional Republicans” have with the John Birch Society? It looks to me like they were pretty prescient in many ways.
I keep trying to figure out why a “traditional Republican” votes for Democrats and defends Democrat Presidents.
Rand,
[[[I haven’t seen any of them complain about fluoride. ]]]
I’m guessing you didn’t look very hard…
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/06/09/sharron_angle_cavity_creep
[[[The Nevada state Assembly voted 26-16 to fluoridate the water of two Nevada counties. Angle voted against the bill. Not because of something defensible, like fluoridation being a waste of taxpayer money, but because she believed conspiracy theories about fluoridation.]]]
Or are you now going to claim Sharron Angle wasn’t a “true” Tea Party candidate?
But I am surprised a Libertarian like you would be in favor of the government violating your personal rights by medicating you with fluoridation….
http://reason.com/archives/2001/12/05/impurifying-our-precious-bodil
[[[The JBS opposed the fluoridation of public water supplies on the grounds that it is an involuntary mass medical treatment that violates individual rights.]]]
Leland,
I guess its because there is no longer a traditional Republican Party, just the Tea Party occupied Republican Party.
I don’t know what Sharron Angle was, other than not Harry Reid, and that would have been sufficient reason for me to vote for her.
Man, the Matula has really gone off the deep end in Tea Party conspiracy craziness. What’s next, Tea Party operatives were behind the JFK assassination? (I heard they found a used Lipton tea bag on the grassy knoll! eleventy!!11!!)
Hey, it’s the same refrain. You sexist, bigot, racist, proselytizing homophobes need to shut the hell up! But even if you did I’d still vote for a ham sandwich before I’d vote for your side.
And we’re the ones accused of ad hominems.
That was your line, remember?
Titus,
No, I argued she wasn’t a true Republican. Which is why I voted for Senator Reid.
Rand,
I guess its a good thing you don’t take voting serious, as you noted in your record of voting for candidates for presidents who could never win.
lol, you must be geezering, or you use too many throw-away lines.
“too many”? I’m still waiting for him to say something worth keeping.
I argued she wasn’t a true Republican. Which is why I voted for Senator Reid.
I guess its a good thing you don’t take voting serious
Those two might qualify as keepers. They’re certainly LOL-worthy.
It certainly is some projection.
“…so you think the banks should have an actual PERSON, sitting here, or out in the parking lot, in a secure box, with a box load of cash?”
It’s about time we unwound the state monopoly on mugging.
And Thomas, what’s your problem? First, the Tea Party was a ploy by the Koch brothers and unnamed lobbyists to frame the debate. Now, it’s a rerun of the John Birch Society.
How about we scratch your real itch. What is the problem with the idea of fiscal responsibility in government and reducing the power and extent of the government?