…but who counts the votes.
Isn’t it funny how these close elections almost always go the Dems’ way?
I have to say that they shouldn’t take much comfort from this. All that outside money and the union thuggery, and all they could manage was a dead heat in Wisconsin?
[Late afternoon update]
Hey, if you can’t find the votes you need, shred the votes the other guy needs…
[Bumped]
Eh, remember who was “robbed” in Florida in 2000. I’m deeply wary of both parties and there are plenty of close votes that can be manipulated by either side. Having said that, Democrats are in a good position to manipulate this election.
Florida was an anomaly in many ways.
With all due respect to the good professor, what does this even mean in concrete terms? Anything? Will the bullets of the police who enforce its orders have any less persuasive power? If the 20th century can teach us anything, it’s that the banal bureaucratic juggernaut of evil has much momentum, and only the light push from the nomenklatura and fearful proles is needed to compensate for the energy lost from bumping over the innocent. The decay function is digital, not analog – the system continues “working” right up to the point where beat cops are willing to pull the trigger.
If, instead, the good professor is arguing that government no longer functions as intended by philosophers, well, f—k, that ship has not only sailed, it’s docked in another harbor altogether…
The Dems weren’t able to steal Florida because of the national attention and Bush actually fought back. Compare and contrast to other such fights were the GOP candidate actually believed all that fair-play nonsense, or was treated as a local story (like Rossi in ‘004).
No matter who wins this, it puts the Tea Party types on notice for what to expect next year, and that alone is a Dem loss. it also shows that the Dems can no longer rely on a huge turnout by their side giving them an easy win. Think of all the resources they’ve used and will use just to tie.
“Isn’t it funny how these close elections almost always go the Dems’ way?”
It would be interesting to see data backing that up. A month or two after the 2010 elections you said you thought close elections favored the democrats, so I counted all the close congressional elections, and didn’t find a bias. But that’s one year, one type of race, and I don’t currently have any data to cite, so you have no reason to believe me. But the subject must have been studied and published. A first pass at googling for information has failed for me but maybe someone else will have better luck and/or research skills.
I counted all the close congressional elections, and didn’t find a bias
Whoa, that’s a relief!
Count them yourself; please let me know what you find.
If the Federal Government shuts down, I’m sure Mr. Franken will be willing to be “neighborly” and offer some advice to the Dems of Wisconsin. I’m sure they’ve already put a call or three into his office just in case…
Well said, TQ.
I find it quaint when law professors furrow their brows over the fate of the prestige of the law. The only folks I know for whom The Law has significant prestige are (1) its inhabitants, e.g. lawyers and law students, and (2) those who’ve never come in contact with it. Little old ladies who always drive the speed limit, say, or college girls whom the local beat cop (a handsome fellow) has helped unlock their cars when they’ve tee hee locked the keys inside.
Anyone else who’s had nontrivial exposure to the cross between Fritz Lang sausage factory and Juggernaut that is the law runs shrieking from its lightest touch, as he would if a mutilated corpse rose off the slab and lunged for him.
Carl: one of the many things that pisses me off about the GOP is the way they constantly fellate police officers (as do the Democrats, but I’m a Republican and I expect better).
Just remember: the police are the thin blue line protecting us from donut shop robbers and people doing 36 in a 35 zone. Meanwhile, millions of evil Democrat creeps are beating their wives and molesting their children, and the cops could care less.
Now, apparently, we have vote shredding in WI. Wunderbar.
Kloppenburg has stolen the election. She has no legitimacy, and Walker should treat her as if she is not a SC justice.
But of course he will. Which brings up the question: what do Wisconsin patriots do without him?
It is perfectly legitimate to topple a government that has no legitimacy.
I want to know: now that the Democrats are revealed as having no legitimacy, can the civil war begin? I would love to kill some of these Internet shit-talking pussies, in front of their whores, after making them beg for their lives.
Ken Says:
April 6th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
“I want to know: now that the Democrats are revealed as having no legitimacy, can the civil war begin? I would love to kill some of these Internet shit-talking pussies, in front of their whores, after making them beg for their lives.”
Does the shark you just jumped have lasers strapped to its back or mounted under it belly?
So are you content with living under an illegitimate government as a second-class citizen, in which all of the first-class citizens (Demoncrats) are working hand-in-hand to exterminate you and all others like you?
The Demoncrats want us dead. I want us alive. There is no compromise.
I think the reason why the Democrats threw such an apoplectic fit over Florida in 2000 and then spent eight years screaming about the “stolen election” is precisely because they were thwarted in their efforts to steal it. Leftists are very big on projection.
Ken, it’s a very rare event when I ban someone from this comments section. One more post resembling the last two in any way will be your last.
That would sadden me, because I love your work on private spaceflight. Actually, I wish that we could worry about nothing except delta-v’s, and to hell with politics. Unfortunately, the Democrats, being the dominant party, have been quite successful at keeping us stranded on this hellhole of a planet. That is one of the reasons I dislike them so much.
Seriously, Rand, WTF? What have I done to rate getting banned? I don’t get it. I’m on your side.
People who advocate violent civil wars on my web site, because “Democrats want us dead,” with other hyperbolic obscenities, is definitely not on my side. I could ban you for the obscenities alone.
This is the first time I’ve spoken up about this, contenting myself with having other commenters hold you in check. I’m happy that I haven’t had to do it very much, and that commenters like you have been rare. But you apparently don’t get it.
Ken, the fact that you can’t figure it out is of a piece with why Rand gave you the warning.
(I wrote this but refreshed before posting, and I have seen Rand’s comments. I don’t think I’m stepping over the line here.)
Ken, although some of us are in general agreement with what you say, it isn’t necessarily a good idea to say it openly in a public forum.
I’ve been predicting civil war-publicly-ever since Election Night 2008, but I’m not looking forward to it. I’m pretty sure the aftermath will be worse than what we have now.
I was also going to cite that one, allegedly by Alexander Tytler, but while looking it up I found this, which is pretty interesting.
I think you’re giving one warning more than is deserved, Rand.
Yeah, probably. I guess it’s the way I roll. As I said, I feel fortunate that I’ve had to do it so rarely.
We’ll see if he figures it out.
Ken,
You really need to learn to relax.
Seriously, you are giving those who you despise a power over you they do not deserve and doing it of your own free will.
The problem is, M Puckett, that they already have that power. They win on all the issues and most of the elections. They steal elections when they cannot win them fairly. Every time I try to tell people that we are losing our freedoms thanks to this one group of people they all either (a) go into Seinfeld-type irony (get a grip people! this isn’t even remotely funny, or else (b) go into Spenglerian despair and go off on a B.S. philosophical tangent.
You can tell that they are in the final stages of absolute victory because of their joyful gloating. I used to live around Democrats. They are not good people. They are violent, drug-abusing, woman-abusing, child-abusing, sexually obsessed, celebrity worshipping, absolutely creepy felons.
Yes, I know that sounds like hyperbole. But it isn’t. I know these people and what they are like.
Have you ever gone on a walk along a river with your wife? Those street punks, aka Leftists, that were watching you may have seemed like the scenery. But unlike you, I have heard what they say up close. Basically, they’re talking about what a wimpy square you are, how your wife really wants “street dudes” like them, and how maybe they’ll beat your brains out and “give her what she really wants.”
These are not normal people. They are criminal trash. I speak from personal experience.
I lie awake at night, thinking about the dystopian Hell these sickos will create when they have consolidated their power. To me, that horrific future is more real than the present I have around me.
And that’s why I get so irritated at most conservatives. Their response amounts to, “Well, it’s inevitable, so why fight it?” Oh, and there aren’t any real men any more, and dagnabit, when they were kids they had to walk uphill 10 miles to school both ways.
I say this not in violence but in pleading to you and others. We absolutely have to deal with these people. Maybe we can do it non-violently. But we need to do something, because we on the right are on our last legs. Once we go down, we will be under Communist slavery forever.
Better dead than Red.
You’ve all heard that old saw about, the ‘Golden Rule’…he who has the gold makes the rules. I guess ‘votes’ count as ‘gold’ too in this day and age.
Here’s the proof that ‘votes’ = ‘gold’.
How many elected officials can vote THEMSELVES a pay raise now? Packing the Supreme Court is effectively the same thing. Especially if you pack said court with people who see the constitution, they were sworn to uphold, as a ‘living document’.
That living document concept is usually trouble, IMHO.
Another reason I am so virulently against Democrats: to my way of seeing it, they murdered my little sister. Thanks to the plagues caused by their anti-vaccine propaganda, she contracted a form of antibiotic-resistant pneumonia bacteria that killed her. I can almost see Bill Maher’s evil grin if he were to hear about it. He is a cancer on our nation.
Er, Ken, dude. Seriously. Get some help. I mean, I’ve mocked you in the past, but I actually now think you just need some sort of medical help.
Based on the fact that my sister died and I was unhappy about it?
Condolences on your sister by the way. (As for the anti-vaccine stuff, I am unaware that that’s an official part of the liberal/Democratic platform.)
I wrote my previous comment before you left yours on your sister. My comments are directed at the fact that you keep writing weird, frothing-at-the-mouth loony stuff and don’t seem to recognize it as such.
It’s not part of the Democrat platform, but it’s hawked by Robert Kennedy Jr. and Bill Maher, and it’s part of the all-natural, green, anti-Big Pharma agenda. It was most prevalent, I believe, in upper-class Bay Area suburbs, especially Marin County. That’s only a couple hundred miles from Reno, where my sister lived (and so do I).
But thanks for the condolences.
“…it’s hawked by Robert Kennedy Jr. and Bill Maher…”
Also Jenny McCarthy, Billy Corgan, Jim Carrey, and Britney Spears, at least according to a Google search using the term “anti-vaccination celebrities.” Well, with such Great Minds coming out against vaccines, I’m sure the nation is doomed.
Seriously, how does an anti-vaccine movement, such as it is, cause an antibiotic-resistant strain of pneumonia? There isn’t a vaccine against any strain of pneumonia. Pneumonia does kill people with weakened immune systems, though. Was your sister already sick with something else, or was she already in ill health? Did she get the flu which later developed into pneumonia? Did she decide not to get a
flue shot because she’d read an article or something from the anti-vaccination crowd, and later got sick? If that, then I can see where you are coming from, but — you’re wrong about the cause of more virulent strains of diseases.
See, antibiotic resistant diseases aren’t caused by people not getting vaccinated. People who don’t get vaccinated can die from good old regular strength diseases. Antibiotic resistant strains of thing are caused by 1) the presence of antibiotics in the first place (viruses and bacteria can adapt); 2) improper use of antibiotics (people take them for things that can’t be cured by antibiotics, like any virus — antibiotics only take out bacterial illnesses, or they don’t take their full dosage because “they feel better, they’re not sick any more” which only means that they’ve killed off the weaker bacteria but not the stronger); and 3) overuse of chemical cleaners and hand sanitizers instead of daily washing and scrubbing with hot water and soap, which encourages both the adaptation of viruses and bacteria to cope with the cleansers, and gives them a place to live — the filthy environments that no one bothers washing anymore because “we’ve got Purell.”
Or maybe it’s all the blood-drinking at those leftist orgies.
Ken,
I wish I could give you the sureity and peace of the things I know but alas, I cannot.
Andrea,
Purell is gelled Alcohol and I don’t think Bacteria have cracked Alcohol in Billions of years trying and dying.
Since we have surveillance cameras set up in convenience stores to deter crime, can’t we have something similar in the places where they gather and count ballots? An army of James O’Keefes watching every election?
I don’t mean that germs grow in Purell — I mean that people now tend to use hand sanitizers instead of washing their hands with soap and water.
Ken, Mike Puckett is giving you good advice, but it is advice that is very hard to follow when you’re angry.
I wonder if you might find it helpful to read up on anti-communist dissidents. Vaclav Havel wrote an essay called “The Power of The Powerless” which might resonate with you. And Havel is generally a pretty amazing guy — he managed to hate communism, resist it, and persevere to become president, all without becoming consumed by hatred.
Alan, speaking of James O’Keefe, I’m certain he would enshrine himself in the Patriots Hall of Fame if he was able to document video evidence of Democrats fixing an election. Nearly as good would be a leftist turd bragging about cheating and/or ballot stuffing on video. Probably would be 20x more difficult than any thing he’s done so far, and probably 20x more dangerous.
Happens over here in the UK, too. It’s leavened with racial politics over here, also, but in our case it’s a different set of people.
The last Labour government did something that (as is typical) was a little difficult to say anything against; they introduced postal voting on demand with no required justification. I have two objections to this. First is that it’s far too easy to cheat in postal voting; there are recorded cases of Labour party activists going around picking up bales of postal vote forms, saying things like “don’t worry, we’ll sort it out for you” and in reality putting exclusively Labour votes on them. They did this mostly in areas with a lot of ethnic Pakistanis, which is the racial angle. Oddly enough, they had some difficulty getting voting forms to our soldiers in Afghanistan; I wonder why that was?
The second is a lot more fundamental. While I have some (in fact a lot of) sympathy for those who are going to be away for work or holidays on election day, or who are housebound or in hospital for example, getting postal votes; it’s my contention that if you can’t be bothered to go out and vote (a fairly minor effort, usually) then you shouldn’t have that vote in the first place. There are local elections scheduled for the UK on May 5th; I’m hoping for appalling weather on that date.
Ken, you’re attitude is the epitome of uncivil rhetoric. Say this 100 times: it’s not acceptable to vilify my political opponents.
Karl,
Your suggestion that a party was robbed in Florida in 2000 seems to suggest that the party that eventually won in Florida wasn’t the party that always retained the lead in the vote counts.
Typical: a commenter known for his wild, near-insane comments reveals the possible source of his profound mental distress, and Bob-1 tells him to go read something. WTF, Bob-1, do you actually know any real people?
Now, Andrea, be nice: “Bob-1” is new to our planet (they assigned him that name before leaving the homeworld).
In response to Andrea: Ken, you have my sympathies as well on the loss of your sister. I can’t give you advice on grief – in my own experience, only time helps, and then only somewhat. But if you are angry and looking for a way to productively channel your anger, you might aggressively promote the proper use of antibiotics. This is a growing problem — look up “ndm-1” in news.google.com. We still have time to do something, so don’t panic, but this is a worthwhile cause that needs activists. Maybe you could speak out about your sister. I suggest focusing on science rather than politics to reach the largest number of people.
My original comment was regarding your concern about communism: “better dead than red”. I’m a liberal, you think I’m part of the problem, but maybe we can agree that anti-communist dissidents have life stories worth learning from — examples of people who didn’t give up, fought hard, and didn’t get consumed by hatred. I’ve seen right-wing and left-wing Americans, concerned for differing reasons about the state of American politics, cite Havel’s “Power of the Powerless” as inspirational, as did people all over the Warsaw Pact suffering from communist oppression.
I thought he was from France.
“France? Oh, that explains everything…”