No matter how much the White House and the MSM want them to, about the birth certificate. Tom Maguire lays out the state of play. Put me in category three, along with his reader (as I’ve said, though not so clearly, for many months):
I would also posit that there are THREE “camps” of thought that get lumped into the “birther” category.
The first two are as [AllahPundit] stated.
The third is where I would put myself – a person:
1) who wonders why it is so difficult for Obama to provide an actual Birth Certificate; and
2) who sees a connection between the lack of details and secrecy regarding Obama’s birth and the lack of details and secrecy about so much else of Obama’s life – his connections to Ayers, his grades in college, the papers he published, the lectures he taught, etc.I don’t think Obama was born in Kenya or any other place other than Hawaii.
But I find it outrageous and ridiculous that we know more about Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber than we know about Obama.
Yup.
For someone who is supposedly all about transparency, his past seems to be quite opaque. And the uncuriosity on the part of the media would be puzzling, if one actually took them at their word about, you know, “afflicting the comfortable, and comforting the afflicted.” Because Barack Obama seems to be pretty damned comfortable to me. And those of us who are afflicted with concern about just what kind of president we have need, if not a little comfort, at least a little honesty. Or at least an honest attempt to get it from this White House. We’re not so stupid, though, as to suspend respiration while waiting.
You assert that college transcripts are something “any other job applicant” would supply, but you don’t really believe that.
Another failed attempt at mind reading. If a job applicant is asked for his transcripts, and he refuses to supply them, he should expect not to get the job.
He didn’t brag about being a great student in high school (in fact he wrote that he hadn’t been a star student), or being a standout in college. You’re asking him to prove something he never claimed, simply because you don’t like the implications of his excellent record in law school and at U. Chicago.
I’m continuing to ask him to show us what he doesn’t want us to know, so we can determine why. Despite your illogic, my curiosity continues unabated, and in fact because of this desperate and pathetic attempt, it in fact grows.
If a job applicant is asked for his transcripts, and he refuses to supply them, he should expect not to get the job.
And what, exactly, does this have to do with electoral politics? I can only think of two politicians — Bush and Gore — whose college transcripts became public.
I’m continuing to ask him to show us what he doesn’t want us to know, so we can determine why.
You’re putting yourself in the same category as Andrew Sullivan, who demanded to see Trig Palin’s birth certificate in order to know why Sarah Palin was hiding it. After all, she ran as a mother of five, shouldn’t she have to prove it? Doesn’t the fact that she went to so much trouble to hide the birth records suggest that there’s something damaging there? Ugh.
And what, exactly, does this have to do with electoral politics? I can only think of two politicians — Bush and Gore — whose college transcripts became public.
When someone runs for public office, it’s not unreasonable to request that they make their past transparent.
You’re putting yourself in the same category as Andrew Sullivan, who demanded to see Trig Palin’s birth certificate in order to know why Sarah Palin was hiding it.
I don’t think so. For one thing, I haven’t been obsessing about it. For another, I haven’t made any particular claims (e.g., he was born in Kenya) that I’m asking to be disproved. For another, there is a difference between asking for the president’s birth certificate, which actually bears on his eligibility to be president, and one of a candidate’s child. For the final, Sullivan is a loon, and it’s as ridiculous to think that Bristol Palin had two children in that amount of time as to claim that we never went to the moon.
When someone runs for public office, it’s not unreasonable to request that they make their past transparent.
To what purpose? You’ve written above that you are curious because you want to know why he hasn’t answered the question. That sort of “transparency” — the right to know the answer to any question that the candidate does not want to answer, so that you can find out why he didn’t want to answer — is boundless.
For another, there is a difference between asking for the president’s birth certificate, which actually bears on his eligibility to be president, and one of a candidate’s child.
Asking for proof of citizenship is legit, and he furnished it long ago. His college transcripts do not bear on his eligibility.
it’s as ridiculous to think that Bristol Palin had two children in that amount of time as to claim that we never went to the moon.
I totally agree. Even before Bristol Palin’s pregnancy was public, it never made sense that Sarah Palin would tell her crazy story about going into labor in Texas and then flying back to Alaska if she was trying to cover up not actually being pregnant. But as soon as a candidate doesn’t want to answer a simple question, someone somewhere will wonder why they aren’t answering. You seem to think that’s enough to make the question legitimate — it isn’t.
the right to know the answer to any question that the candidate does not want to answer, so that you can find out why he didn’t want to answer — is boundless.
Too bad. It’s what happens when you want to run for the highest office in the land. Or even a lower one.
But as soon as a candidate doesn’t want to answer a simple question, someone somewhere will wonder why they aren’t answering. You seem to think that’s enough to make the question legitimate — it isn’t.
It’s a legitimate question, and Palin has answered it. But it’s a completely different kind of question than what courses the president took, and what kind of grades he got in them.
You know less about Obama.
So now Jim is reading my mind as well! No Jim, I know quite a bit, but not the hidden bits. Others are happy to introduce us to the people they know because they’re proud to know them. Not Obama. He barely knows the guy he and his family were intimately involved with for twenty years. He barely knows the guy that jump started his political career. I suspect he’s a member of the IMF and needs to disavow all his fellow operatives.