14 thoughts on “Fargo, Flooded, Frozen”

  1. FEMA is not being run by mike brown,
    and the crisis comes slower.
    Plus there were lots of lessonns from the
    94 flood

  2. That’s exactly the sort of stupid and irrelevant response that I expected.

    And of course, the crisis in New Orleans was coming for decades. They had plenty of time to build their levees properly.

  3. If the crisis comes slower, than it seems the O Administration had more time to respond. What’s the response?

  4. The crisis defies the parties view on global warming therefore, it does not exist and must be ignored.

  5. Stupid and irrelevant not only because of the mention of Mike Brown, but also because there wasn’t even a major flood in 1994.

    The MAJOR flood was in ’97, and is completely different than this flood. The flood of ’97 in Grand Forks was caused by a rapid and late thaw of the snow pack and major runoff, but there wasn’t a major ice jam to content with, as there is now. The flood of ’97 happened in April and May, not in the still-dead of winter of mid-to-late March.

  6. Actually the levees in new orleans were
    under the corps of engineers.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/01/storm/main1675244.shtml

    “A contrite U.S. Army Corps of Engineers took responsibility Thursday for the flooding of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina and said the levees failed because they were built in a disjointed fashion using outdated data.

    “This is the first time that the Corps has had to stand up and say, `We’ve had a catastrophic failure,”‘ Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the Corps chief, said as the agency issued a 6,000-page-plus report on the disaster on Day 1 of the new hurricane season.”

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  9. I lived two years in Mobridge SD and wonder how they liked the dynamiting of ice on the Missouri River around Fargo?

    They spend six month of the year collecting firewood for the other six months. My cousin’s neighbor was an 80 year old woman that chopped her own firewood every year.

    They don’t need the government to survive.

    But it’s still Bushes fault, right?

  10. That’s exactly the sort of stupid and irrelevant response that I expected.

    And of course, the crisis in New Orleans was coming for decades. They had plenty of time to build their levees properly.

    Those levees were, afaict, a joint project between the New Orleans Levee Board and the _US_ _Army_ Corps of Engineers, Rand. One of the major ones that failed was basically rebuilt completely back in the 90’s.

    (Of course, If anyone wants to go ahead and blame George Bush for not rebuilding everything done by the previous administration under the assumption that they were complete incompetents… I don’t really want to get into that).

    I’d also like to point out that New Orleans is in a much worse situation regarding flooding: if the levee breaks, all the nearby non-swampland is a considerable distance away (and in the aftermath of Katrina, a lot of it had suffered severe wind damage and flooding as well, both across the lake and in Mississippi.)

    The situation in North Dakota is somewhat different from that in New Orleans; I would imagine it would be a lot easier to evacuate everyone out of the river valley and to higher ground, even assuming a perfect evacuation by cooperative people in both cases.

  11. Just to be clear, because we seem to have drifted in comments, my point was not about the differences between NO and ND, but the differences in press coverage between the two.

  14. ice on the Missouri River around Fargo?

    The river at Fargo isn’t the Missouri — it’s the Red River of the North, part of a very small U.S. portion of the Hudson Bay drainage.

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