I’m a little loathe to follow up on this morning’s Space Review article, because there is so much both good and disputable there, and one wants to praise the wheat while addressing the (all-too-much) chaff. I doubt if I’ll finish tonight, but I finally worked up a little before-bed gumption to at least start to go through it.
Let me preface by saying that the most annoying thing, overall, is the vague accusations throughout. There are no specific cites, examples, or people, who could then defend themselves. All of the “Space Cadets” (of which I assume that I’m one) are tarred with the same brush, and all of the “experts” and “space elite” march as one. It’s the same problem that I have with Mark Whittington’s imaginary “Internet Rocketeer’s Club,” whose membership is a secret to all but him. As an example, let’s go to the very second graf:
…as Jeffrey Bell put it in his Space Daily article, “The Totalitarian Temptation in Space”, “space travel is mostly the creation of Hitler, Stalin, and Khrushchev,” and in his view, the fact has led more than a few “Space Cadets” (I apologize to any offended by the term, though I have had a hard time finding an adequate alternative) to develop “a subtle anti-democracy, pro-totalitarian bias.” The most celebrated period in the history of the US space program, the 1960s, is also the era when confident New Deal-Great Society liberalism was at its apogee, and apparently here to stay.
Let us ignore the absurdity of citing Jeffrey Bell on anything (partly because it’s an ad hominem argument, but also because I don’t want to get into yet another issue with the piece). I’m not offended by the term “Space Cadets,” but I am offended as hell about being thrown in with a group that has developed such a “subtle tendency and bias.” Simply put, who is he talking about, and WTF does he mean? If he would tell us, I might agree, or not, but as it is, all I can do is scratch my head at the potential slander. And what is the relationship between this and the New-Deal/Great-Society liberalism? I might agree that they’re all of the same thread of fascism (which they are), but the author later pronounces Jonah Goldberg’s thesis “dubious” (though there’s no evidence presented that he is familiar with anything other than the cover of the book).
Of course, one should not rule out the role of specific personalities, organizations and projects, like Robert Zubrin and his Mars Society, Paul Allen and SpaceShipOne, Richard Branson and Virgin Galactic, or Elon Musk and his SpaceX venture. The prestige, charisma, and sheer financial resources they collectively bring to the table have certainly galvanized libertarian space activism, despite the daunting odds—and to date, the absence of the results long dreamed about, like a sharp drop in the cost of space access. (One need only consider the haste with which this group cites the case of the Falcon 9 rocket in any debate about the costs of space flight–as has happened to me personally on several occasions. I wish SpaceX success in its efforts, but I think that these observers are definitely jumping the gun when they talk about a rocket that has yet to fly as having already delivered the goods.)
It’s nice that he at least tips his hat to the latter day visionaries (though one of them is not like the other — Zubrin is no free-marketer or entrepreneur with his own skin in the game). And I agree that one shouldn’t point to Falcon 9 as an exemplar of a successful vehicle before it has flown. But the point that most sensible “Space Cadets” would make is that it is a lot closer to flight than NASA’s Ares 1, and that it has been developed for a couple orders of magnitude less money than is projected for that program. Falcon 9 is certainly a reasonable comparison to that project.
At this point, he gets into his thesis of the history of technology and how it is interwoven with political thought since the Enlightenment. I have to say that it is overambitious for the length of the piece. It is of course, precisely because of his unwillingness or inability to incorporate technological advances into his analysis that Malthus was so off in his predictions (and nothing, sadly, has changed in the last couple centuries, because neo-Malthusianism persists, all the way up to the current presidential science advisor).
But not everyone was ignoring technology at the time. The first modern science fiction novel, a retelling of the Promethean myth, was written by Mary Shelley at the time, after all. In his confusion about “right” and “left” and the origins of the modern inheritors of those terms (justly or otherwise), he misses the fundamental difference between the children of Locke, and those of Rousseau. The former was not at all averse to reason (as he later describes the conservative tradition when he attempts to shoehorn the post-modernists into it). And the latter professed allegiance to it but was in fact a key player in the Romantic movement. Mary Shelley had a foot in both camps (as do many writers of speculative fiction, for good reason). Political left and right can have their counterparts in the two parts of the brain (except they are generally reversed, in my experience).
[The hour grows late. To be continued, but probably not before tomorrow evening, because I have to get up early and drive to Boca from Orlando for a dentist appointment in the morning. The nice thing about blogging is that one can publish a work in progress, and refine it based on initial comments.]
[Tuesday afternoon update, while cooking corned beef for the occasion.]
OK, back to it. In this next section, he describes why so-called liberals may be less than enchanted with space technology:
The stunt mentality of the Cold War era space program (which may still be with us today) leaves many liberal critics seeing space as a waste of money that would be better used on Earth. Such pronouncements were common enough from figures like Kurt Vonnegut in the 1960s, and the attitude has likely been sharpened by the slowing of economic growth and tightening of public finances since that time (an issue I have discussed in my previous articles, “The Limits to Growth and the Turn to the Heavens” and “Long Waves and Space Development”). The tendency to see space spending as a form of corporate welfare, and to associate space activity with the military space ambitions of governments, only alienate it further. (Indeed, it is worth noting that the area of space policy that attracts the most overtly liberal attention is arms control and defense.)
The business-skeptic left is also little affected by the “market romanticism” (see “Market romanticism and the outlook for private space development”, The Space Review, September 2, 2008) which I have argued has much to do with the current climate of the debate about space development. (If anything, the thought of $200,000-a-seat space tourism is for them a pointed reminder of the world’s inequality, and an instance of repugnant self-indulgence on the part of today’s aristocrats.)
The same goes for the idea of space as a “final frontier,” liberals taking a more ambivalent view of romantic images of the winning of the West. (Those who are economically minded may be prone to see it as the work of government-subsidized railroads and other corporations, rather than hardy, self-reliant pioneers.) Indeed, a certain amount of writing has already been devoted to the ecology and ethics of space expansion. This is not only the case with regard to the effects of human impacts on celestial bodies, but also a question of what such thinking implies for behavior back home on Earth. Given a doubtfulness about the prospects for finding real solutions to our problems in this way, a vision of space development can (and to some, does) appear as an irresponsible fantasy—or worse. And while I suspect this attitude could change, at this point the burden of proof would really seem to be on the advocates of space development to show that space can generate really workable solutions to the problems with which they are concerned.
I agree with the first two grafs, and there are other examples (Mailer’s work, for example). Of course, there are also exceptions (e.g., Oriana Fallaci). As to the third, I would disagree quite a bit. First, the settling of the west was not an exclusive or. It happened both due to government activity and doughty private individuals seeking both freedom and prosperity.
And the “subsidies” provided to the railroads weren’t exactly that, at least not in the usual sense of taxpayers providing funds to support a private business. The government’s contribution was worthless (at least at the time) real estate, to which the railroads added value along the right of way (something worth thinking about in the context of the Outer Space Treaty and current inability to grant extraterrestrial property rights). It also ignores (as do almost all such analyses) the Great Northern, which was entirely private. It should also be noted that much of the American West was explored privately (by the mountain men, seeking good trapping grounds for beaver pelts). In fact, the mouth of the Columbia was discovered by a seal-hunting ship.
As for whether or not the burden of proof should be on those who claim that space holds a solution to earthly problems, who would argue? This is another straw man (not to say that there is no one who takes the view that the government should just take our word for it, but again we shouldn’t all be tarred with that brush). Of course, one of the reasons that so-called liberals are less than enamored with the opening of the west as a model is that they view it through their standard prism of rape of the environment and the noble red man. For people with this mind set, it’s hard to get past their instinctive distaste for the whole thing, even when reliably informed that there is neither an ecology or native peoples to exploit and pillage in space. Even when informed that the goal is to create an ecology, and expand humanity to places where it currently does not exist. And that doesn’t even start to get into the extreme eeks who believe that rocks (both terrestrial and extra) have rights.
So, for a modern leftist, there’s a lot not to like about space, and it’s not at all surprising that most of them don’t. What is surprising, in fact, is that some do. I have my own theory about this, which I’ll get to momentarily, that I think cuts through a lot of Elhafnawy’s underbrush.
Now we come to one of the most absurd notions in the essay — that postmodernists are conservative:
Postmodernists are commonly thought of as being leftists, and indeed, the very word seems to conjure up images of campus radicals. This view is rarely questioned, by the left or the right, by postmodernists or their detractors, but it is a profound misperception.
No, it’s exactly right. There is a damned good reason that “the very word seems to conjure up images of campus radicals.” It’s because postmodernism is a hot-house plant — it cannot survive outside the nurturing leftist environment of English and Anthropology Departments. It’s one of those things so absurd that (as Orwell famously put it) only an intellectual could believe it. I would defy the author of the essay to find a postmodernist running a business. Or at a shooting range. Or in church.
And the notion that someone not of the left can survive not only unscathed, but be celebrated in the campus environment is belied by the scarcity on campus of people who are (or at least will profess to be) conservative. Postmodernists, on the other hand, fit the place like a glove, culturally and intellectually.
From there he goes on to demonstrate his profound lack of understanding of the conservative tradition, instead presenting a caricature of conservatives that he finds convenient to his thesis:
Unlike the left, and very much in line with the conservative tradition, postmodernists are very suspicious of the claims made for reason, rationality, and the idea of progress, and by extension, anything founded on them.
If he thinks that John Locke or Edmund Burke were “suspicious of claims made for reason, rationality, and the idea of progress,” he cannot be in any way acquainted with their works. Or rather, if they are so suspicious, it is a healthy skepticism about the claims, rather than reason, rationality or progress in themselves. Conservatives that I know are all for reason and rationality (at least when it comes to economics). What they oppose is false claims made in its name (e.g., we can spend our way out of debt). Postmodernists, on the other hand, don’t even believe in reason as a means to attain knowledge. Really, I find this notion that postmodernists are conservative (as most people understand that word) to be the most misguided part of the whole essay. Not to mention its lack of relevance to the overall thesis.
Now, finally, we come to the cartoon depiction of the “space cadets” on line versus the “elite” “experts” who “actually are involved with space policy.”
[To be continued]
“space travel is mostly the creation of Hitler, Stalin, and Khrushchev,”
Nah. Space travel is the creation of Goddard, Tsiolkovskii, Von Braun, Korolev, and other visionaries who manuipulated rulers into spending resources on space travel that otherwise would have gone into more effective military programs.
The one conversation I wish I could have had, and never would have, would have been to ask Von Braun how he compared Hitler to LBJ. He always kept his mouth shut about that one.
So, what about Ferris and Jon? They are died-in-the-wool Obama fans who obviously belong to the Internet Rocketeers Club. How does the statist model account for them?
Really that statement really fisks and disqualifies that article. That’s like saying George 111 and not Congreve
who designed the rockets that attacked Ft. McHenry was
the mastermind.
Ferris is, but if you mean Jon Goff, I’ve never seen any evidence that he is an Obama fan, dyed-in-the-wool or otherwise.
Jim Bennet wrote:
““space travel is mostly the creation of Hitler, Stalin, and Khrushchev,”
Nah. Space travel is the creation of Goddard, Tsiolkovskii, Von Braun, Korolev, and other visionaries who manuipulated rulers into spending resources on space travel that otherwise would have gone into more effective military programs.”
While true, JIm’s statement is not explicit enough in detailing the Nader Elhefnawy’s biases. It seems rather obvious that in his opinion it is the State, and whoever controls it, that makes technical advance happen. Of course, if you mean narrowly defined and temporary technical advance, like ballistic missiles, then Nader has a point, because it is States that use such devices.
However, it is notable that the spaceships actually being built for the markets are all privately conceived, even if NASA is willing to think about being a customer, and willing to put up some money in advance for some of them. The parallel unwillingness to separate the Locke and Rouseau traditions is another telling point, IMHO.
In fact, I agree with Nader that the post-modernists represent a point of view that opposes the new culture of the industrial revolution. That does not mean they are *anything* like Burkean Conservatives, though. In fact, they are far more similar to the landed aristocrats sneering at the industrial revolution, whether from a titled position, or from the tenured scholastic professorships of academia, where so many 2nd and 3rd sons of the aristocracy ended up. In addition, trapped by the Engels definition of that revolution, he does not consider that most of the Left also despises industrial freedoms needed for the world-wide networks of the continuing industrial revolution. Thus, he misses the primary threats to making spaceflight a society-wide activity, governmental restrictions, whether explicit, or indirect.
Regards,
Tom Billings
I’m too baffled by this conversation to contribute much a the abstract level, but I’m an Obama fan, a lifelong Democrat, and a lifelong space enthusiast. Rand, I almost completely agree with your views on space. I may have different personal interests than yours ( I think that searching for life in the solar system and on extrasolar planets is even more interesting than the search for resources for us to exploit), but I do think that mankind should move out into the solar system and get rich doing it, and I mostly agree with your views on government’s role. Most liberals I know who are interested in space feel the same way, and are very enthusiastic about $200,000 dollar tourist seats and are even more enthusiastic about alt.space private efforts.
(I’m a little uncertain of what you think of using tax dollars to support science, but I do agree with you that science is just one reason to do anything space-related.)
Sorry, lost some zeroes on those tourist seats. My point is that most liberals I know don’t envy the wealthy, because they see themselves as having the ability (or at least the right) to become wealthy. Oh, and environmentalists who think that extraplanetary nature preserves should be set up alongside industry, and who think that terraforming efforts should be balanced against destroying scientifically interesting environments are hardly people who think that rocks have rights.
Bob, there are people who don’t think we should mine asteroids, or the moon, regardless of whether or not there is life there.
Even on their own dollar?
I mean, on “our” own dollar, where “our” means Elon Musk’s dollar, I suppose.
Of course “even on our own dollar.” They put space rocks in the same category as baby seals (though higher than humans).
Asteroids: Ceres is likely to turn out to be a very interesting place, with a very thick layer of ice if not liquid water. Vesta has interesting geology. These places are worth studying but it shouldn’t be hard to find a way to accomodate the needs of both science and industry. There should be accomodation for nature preserves as well (to preserve the cool views if nothing else). The Moon: It remains to be see whether “air polution” on the moon from rocket exhausts is an issue for anyone. Mars: I’m skeptical of industry on mars except for tourism, but say there is an interest in heavy industry, and then suppose we find subsurface lifeforms. Regardless of how different they are from life on Earth, if there is any difference at all, I would think you’d be for making enough accomodation to preventing them from going extinct. Our polar regions: you’re in favor of drilling in ANWR, but you don’t actually want to trash even 1% of the place, right?
Bob, why are you assuming that the people under discussion are rational, and not acting on religious beliefs?
Great counterpoints so far Rand.
I’m pretty much a disillusioned Space Cadet myself, and I have to agree with many of his points. On some of the basis of his characterizations however he’s out in left field.
Postmodernism and the pro-“expert” bias are two of the big ones.
Let me take on the “expert” bias.
There’s a much larger cadre of “space experts,” with many degrees among them, than the actual size and impact of the global space industry warrants, all because of the outsized role that governments play in the space marketplace. With reams of data out there about various government programs, and an “engineering-lite” atmosphere of slightly more technical rigor than your average policy playground, many of these “space experts” (take John Pike for instance) have convinced themselves and each other that their government program experience gives them the necessary backgound to speak with authority on what a commercial space industry could or could not do.
In reality, as has been pointed out ad exhaustium, the total size of the space marketplace and industry is not yet large enough nor market-driven enough to provide data that demonstrates what the market can or cannot do in space.
About the limits of what we CAN say is that 1. space ain’t easy and 2. it aint a marketplace YET
I’m really curious what your theory on intelligent space-interested liberals like Ferris, because it is so rare?
My suspicion is that most of them are nascent liberals(in the 19th century sense), who have not yet stumbled into libertarianism, but who are likely converts late in life.
This discussion is rather confusing. What, precisely, is being debated here? Whether “postmodernism,” an intellectual phenomenon (I won’t call it a system) that only exists in academia is by that token “left” or “right”? Excuse my obtuseness, but who cares? Of what value is such a debate to illuminating the philosophies that underlay our desire for human expansion?
Of what value is noting that “some people” are misanthropic and view humanity as a plague? Those people are not in the space advocacy community, and have little leverage in politics, so why are they even mentioned except as a convenient straw man to avoid seriously delving into the question of our own desires and motivations?
That liberal space advocacy is motivated by humanism, lust for the exotic, and scientific curiosity comes as no surprise. That libertarian advocates may be more interested in trading the mild obligations of living in a developed democratic society for the utter physical tyranny of isolated frontier living is also a great big “duh.” Where these obscure, jargon-laden philosophical ruminations enter the picture is not quite as apparent. With all due respect to Stanislaw Lem, ontology will play little role in mankind’s expansion into the heavens.