The New York Times continues to act as the propaganda arm of the Obama campaign:
Steve Diamond has made a powerful case that, whoever first suggested Obama’s name, Ayers must surely have had a major role in his final selection. Diamond has now revealed that the Times consulted him extensively for this article and has seen his important documentary evidence. Yet we get no inkling in the piece of Diamond’s key points, or the documents that back it up. (I’ve made a similar argument myself, based largely on my viewing of many of the same documents presented by Diamond.) How can an article that gives only one side of the story be fair? Instead of offering both sides of the argument and letting readers decide, the Times simply spoon-feeds its readers the Obama camp line.
The Times also ignores the fact that I’ve published a detailed statement from the Obama camp on the relationship between Ayers and Obama at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (See “Obama’s Challenge.”) Maybe that’s because attention to that statement would force them to acknowledge and report on my detailed reply.
Yup. Wouldn’t fit the narrative.
[Mid afternoon update]
Instapundit has a roundup of links discussing this.
What?
No, no, I’m disregarding everything he says. Everything. I certainly don’t automatically believe the opposite of what he says! As you point out, that way leads to craziness. I don’t choose to believe him or disbelieve him – I’m just ignoring what comes out of his mouth.
Initially , I believed him when he said he didn’t want to kill anyone. But then I read your links. Hmmm, he sure sounded like a murderer. Then I read the New York Times article, paying particular attention to Rabbi Wolf’s comment about how Ayer’s was offended when the Rabbi called him toothless. I thought that said something about Ayer’s ego. Then I read the Andy McCarthy I cited above, which included a sentence which started “Back when Ayers was being more honest about his intentions…”, and that’s when I threw up my hands and said “feh, I’m not going to believe anything Ayers says – the guy is a liar, and an egotist, and, of course, a terrorist.”
And I’m hardly taking a politically helpful position – as I said, I think Obama made a mistake, and I think he has no defense.
you’d have no problem with me being best buds with him?
If he’d never murdered again, got a job in a university and you both happened to serve on a local committee I wouldn’t really care that you’d met him.
I’d probably want to know what he was like now out of morbid curiosity.
The charge that won’t stick is that this data suggests that Obama and Ayers are somehow “pals” and there is no evidence, at least currently presented, for that.
he NYT piece was a defensive ploy because the Ayers information was getting out.
Nonsense. Just Google for it! The Ayers stuff has been public domain on a range of news sites since the start of the year. The problem is there isn’t anything in it which could stick to Obama.
Just like the Wright stuff wasn’t hard enough to stick.
I’m just wondering when the Keating 5 ads are going to run?
Senator taking money from a person making money out of a failing Savings and Loan? That sound familiar?
He repented though, so that’s ok is it?
Should he and John Glenn been allowed to stay in government?
The charge that won’t stick is that this data suggests that Obama and Ayers are somehow “pals” and there is no evidence, at least currently presented, for that.
There is abundant evidence of it, but the Times chooses to ignore and minimize it.
FYI: here’s the Paul Begala counter-charge on Meet The Press:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/A_shot_across_the_bows.html
Ben Smith explains why such charges work better against Obama.
Yon’s charges were dismissed because he was defending himself.
Actually, Yon’s charges were dismissed because a grand jury thought he might have been defending himself. The police saw it differently. In his own autobiography, it doesn’t particularly read like self-defense. Yon isn’t necessarily any more innocent of murder than OJ Simpson is. And so what that Yon is a veteran. Timothy McVeigh was also a veteran.
And besides Yon there is also Walt Anderson, who was not only charged with tax fraud but also pleaded guilty. His fraud was unpatriotic too, because he tried to evade taxes by claiming that he wasn’t an American. But that does not mean that Anderson’s criminal guilt and disloyalty rub off on everyone who associates with him.
If the Far Right wants to play the Guilt by Association game
it will prove to be very uncomfortable when every
Republican who has associated with Gordon Liddy starts
getting smeared.
Gordon Liddy planned the assassination of the Columnist Jack Anderson,
planned to burn the Brookings Institution and lead the break in
at the Watergate. Gordon Liddy also called for the murder of
Federal Agents.
Certainly, one should be very concerned about Noted Republicans
associations with such an unrepentant terrorist.
McCain also associates with Kissinger who is wanted on murder
charges in Europe.
Jack Lee, yes, let’s play the guilt by association game. What’s Gordon Liddy got to do with this election? Are you saying that McCain worked for several years for this guy (the analogy to Bill Ayers)? How about Kissinger who actually does have associations with a presidential candidate? Has he been convicted of any crimes?
I had briefly looked at that link when I first saw you post it Bob, but I looked at it again. It has some good information that I intend to look into a bit deeper when I get the time. So thanks.
It always amazes me how some can find equivalence in things that are so little alike. Alan Colms does it so often on H&C that I just find it funny.
Tricky thinking is not critical thinking. To think critically you have to know how much weight to give to things. I see a real lack of ability to do that in some of the reasoning that gets out there.
The fact that is undeniable (not unarguable, just undeniable) is that Obama is hiding aspects of his past and the media is helping him.
McCain is real, a real idiot, but never-the-less real. How republicans could end up with McCain is something that absolutely has to be fixed in the future.
But what ever accidental disaster awaits us in a McCain administration, is nothing, not even close, to the disaster that Obama has planned for us.
Now I’ve got one idiot kid in my house that planned to vote for Obama. I turned him around. He doesn’t understand the issues, but he got the message that Obama would be the seventies all over again, but worse. He wasn’t born then, so I had to explain what it was like. Obama is promising to do what already didn’t work. We don’t need to go through it again.
But there are too many young people that don’t know any better. On top of that you’ve got a party in conclusion with the media to win at any cost. So the people that have the most responsibility to get the message out are keeping it from us. How can we survive that?
Children are being indoctrinated by political parties. It’s obscene.
I think it’s a miracle that McCain chose Palin and hope she can drag his stupid butt over the line. I’m also encouraged that she doesn’t seem to have the defeatist attitude of McCain.
It’s funny, but it seems McCain thinks of himself as a Reaganite (he isn’t) so he chose Palin (who is.)
God help us.
collusion… oops
daveon, your nonsense is making my point. Nobody said the NYT is the first time the story got out. What I said is that it’s defensive cover.
It’s like the trick of releasing information after the news cycle of Friday and claiming it’s old news on Monday.
It’s a ploy to protect their guy. The proof is in the article itself by what it says and what it doesn’t say.
SS, thanks for admitting what you’re candidate will do to this country (you assume he wins.) So how many times do you intend to vote with ACORN? Perhaps you can share a jail cell with your messiah.
What I said is that it’s defensive cover.
Fine, have it that way. The facts are the story has been Public Domain for 9 months and not a shred of evidence that can really stand scrutiny has appeared. Zip. Nada.
Obama has never endorsed what Ayers did. Ayers and Obama don’t appear to have met much. End of story. It’s a bust.
Wright is a better bet, although best not to keep Palin shouting that Obama should have walked out of a sermon he wasn’t actually at. That stuff is getting tired from her too.
How about the stuff that her favourite African preacher said on tape about the greedy Israelites just before he protected her against witches eh? Or didn’t that happen?
Did she also address a Secessionist movement? Tell me that ain’t so?
Fortunately, for all of us, these stories and others are unlikely to make much of a splash because of the very very real news this cycle that McCain is failing to address.
If he doesn’t start sounding and acting like a leading on the economy, he’s toast. Finished. Done. Stick a fork in the campaign time. We’ll see how he does tomorrow night.
So Yon’s charges were dismissed because a grand jury said self-defense. Ayers admits to trying to violently overthrow the elected government of our country. As I said, if you can’t see the difference, you have no business even voting. How does someone get to the point you are at? Who influenced you to think like this? Do you admire Che too? Where do you draw the line?
Obama and Ayers were business partners for years. Ayers allowed Obama to use his home to kick off his state Senate run. How can you honestly make a statement like this:
Obama has never endorsed what Ayers did. Ayers and Obama don’t appear to have met much. End of story. It’s a bust.
Has Obama ever denounced Ayers?
Obama and Ayers were business partners for years. Ayers allowed Obama to use his home to kick off his state Senate run.
They were not business partners – they served on the board of a non-profit.
As I read the data available, a third party organised a kick off launch for Obama and that happened to be in Ayers house.
But keep spinning, do, please.
As I read the data available, a third party organised a kick off launch for Obama and that happened to be in Ayers house.
The data available, as reported by that notorious right-wing news service, CNN, is that the campaign kickoff was planned by Obama, Ayers and Dohrn. They essentially call Obama a liar.